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4 بدون تسليح مليار يورو مع خيار 2 اضافيه و نقل تقنيه 1 لوريان فرنسا 3 الاسكندرية
مصر تطلب 4 قطع بحرية جديدة من DCNS واستمرار التفاوض حول القمرين الصناعيين العسكريين
- بادئ الموضوع Abobarean
- تاريخ البدء
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لو كان فيه خير كانوا كملوا فيه
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4 قطع بمبلغ 1 مليار يورو غير شاملة التسليح
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تصدق فعلا الكلام شكله كده .. المحرر ده رخم وغبي ودايما كده كلامه مش واضح
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مش كدة يا راجح
ممكن فرنسا مش محتاجه
خلي بالك ان الامبسادور اتعمل لمصر مخصوص
تخيل تعمل واحد زية ملكك وليك حق تسويقة بشراكة مع dcns او لانش دورية محترم
الموضوع يستاهل نحاول فية
خصوصا انهم هيحاولوا باستماتة يلبسونا الحتة دي
ت
تم حذف العضو 36085
زي ما انا قلت
مركب فرنساوي مش موجود في فرنسا
مش عارف ليهً بيفكرني بالثاندر
لاكن انا ليا رأي : DCNS صرفت عليه و محتاجه ترجع المصاريف دي
ممكن نتدخل احنا وًنشيل المشروع بنقل كامل للمشروع و شراكه ملكيه نصنعه في اسكندريه و شويه تطويرات صغيره عليه و يخدم في مصر و نحاول نسوقه للدول المجاوره زي ليبيا زي اليمن زي البلاد الافريقية
انا من أنصار دخولنا مجال التصدير العسكري و المنتج الفرنسي اسمه محترم و سعره سيكون اقل كثيرا لو صنع في مصر
ت
تم حذف العضو 36085
ت
تم حذف العضو 36085
غلطتك دي يا حج سام .. كان لازم تاخد بالك
هو المحرر ده من ايام صفقة الرافال وكلامه دايما مش واضح وملغبطنا .،.
عندي دي حقكوًً عليا انا علي التليفون و الساعة داخله علي ٤ الصبح
أسف يا رجاله
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- الدولة
يا نهار اسود عليا وعلى سنينى من اول الموضوع وانا حاطط ايدى على قلبى وكنت هصاب بجلطه من السعر على 2 زورق ساحلى و2 زورق دوريه الحمد لله اخر صفحه انقذت حياتى يا جماعه ابوس ايديكم الى ينزل خبر يدقق فيه قبل مينزله عشان يعنى صحتنا واحنا لسه شباب
طول الموضوع وانا شكلى كده وانا بقرا الردود عن الصفقه
طول الموضوع وانا شكلى كده وانا بقرا الردود عن الصفقه
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جميل جدا كده الموضوع اتضح واصبح اكثر منطقية ..
بعيدا عن جدوى الـGowind 1000 من عدمها لكنه يقدر يتسلح بمدفع اوتوميلارا + 4 صواريخ اكسوسيت بلوك 3 + 8 صواريخ ميكا للدفاع الجوي + مدفعين نكستر عيار 20 مم بخلاف 2 زودياك RHIB للقوات الخاصة والمروحية البحرية
بعيدا عن جدوى الـGowind 1000 من عدمها لكنه يقدر يتسلح بمدفع اوتوميلارا + 4 صواريخ اكسوسيت بلوك 3 + 8 صواريخ ميكا للدفاع الجوي + مدفعين نكستر عيار 20 مم بخلاف 2 زودياك RHIB للقوات الخاصة والمروحية البحرية
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مع احترامى لرأى الرجالة
انا شايف انها قطعة مميزة فى حماية السواحل والدوريات العميقة نسبيا
لا تقارنوه بجاويند لان نطاق عمل كل منهم مختلف كثيرا
انا شايف انها قطعة مميزة فى حماية السواحل والدوريات العميقة نسبيا
لا تقارنوه بجاويند لان نطاق عمل كل منهم مختلف كثيرا
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France will offer what's best in the military telecom
The Ministry of Defence has ordered from Thales Alenia Space and Airbus Defence and Space two military telecommunications satellites COMSAT NG. The amount of this program is 3.8 billion euros over 17 years.
And a record of more buckled ... The Directorate General of Armaments (DGA) notified Tuesday at Thales Alenia Space (TAS) and Airbus Defence and Space achieving two satellites COMSAT program NG (new generation communications satellites ). They will replace, as of 2021, the Syracuse 3A satellite Syracuse 3B and currently in orbit. The contract also includes the implementation of the ground segment for controlling these new satellites, achieving the main ground antennas for their use and support of these means for a period of 17 years from the setting first satellite service. The launch of the two satellites will be provided by Arianespace.
The COMSAT NG program should allow "the continued consistency of communications in the country and with the priority areas of interest, as well as our ships at sea at any time (peace, crisis or major disaster)," explained minsitère of Defence in a statement released Wednesday.
Reportedly, the program amounts to 3.8 billion euros over a 17 year period, including 1 billion euros for the first installment for the construction of the first two satellites. The construction of the 2015 budget included a commitment authorization of 817 million euros this year. In 2016, 170.30 million of commitment authorizations and € 69.8 million in payments are recorded on the finance bill for the benefit of COMSAT NG. Technological risks raising work was initiated in 2013 and the development phase in June 2014.
Thales (65%) and Airbus (35%) share the program
The Ministry of Defence has appointed Thales Alenia Space (TAS), which will be representative, the prime contractor of the complete system (satellites and ground segment). CAS, which until now was the prime contractor for the Syracuse system, will also be responsible payloads, including X-band, which is used for nuclear deterrence, Ka-band, used for satellite internet, and anti-jamming, says one in The Tribune. This industrial scheme should also be extended to export. Including Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, who wish to acquire military telecommunications satellites.
Both share the industrial construction of two satellites. Airbus will use its electric Eurostar 3000 platform TAS Spacebus while Neo, who was born thanks to the European program of ESA (European Space Agency), Neosat. This program will allow a reduction of 30% of the cost of satellites from the current concepts. In total, the Defense Ministry told TAS about 65% of the program and 35% to Airbus. Alongside the consortium comprising Airbus TAS and DS, industrial organization also includes companies Thales Communications & Security and Telespazio France, which are the main contractors.
Marketing of spare capacity
After long hesitated to purchase capacity in public-private partnership (Nectarproject), the Ministry of Defence will eventually buy COMSAT NG very classic way. But it has introduced a new, part of the contract is the subject of a public private partnership (PPP) between the state and the two industrial. TAS and Airbus can not resell used by the French armed forces capabilities. Moreover, the State has taken advantage of this new feature to put pressure on both the industrial contract amount in order to lower the price of COMSAT NG system. This has played less than 10% of the total contract amount, according to our information.
For now, the two industrialists, via their subsidiary services (Telespazio Thales and Airbus Defence and Space Services) will be able to market their accounts are not used by the French armed forces capabilities, particularly early in the commissioning COMSAT NG (2020-2030). Because the program is designed for the French Army at the end of life (2030 to 2035). The state, which has already benefited from the PPP to lower the amount of the contract, could also recover a portion of the proceeds from the marketing of overcapacity COMSAT NG if both industrial manage to sell beyond the objectives set by the contract .
A foundation stone for information literacy
The primary means for long-distance telecommunications, satellite communication systems constitute "a cornerstone for the control of information, key to the superiority of our forces,the ministry said. The control of information allows all levels of commitment, from the strategic to the combat platform to assess the situation and to conduct operational activities ".Realized satellites, operating in X and Ka bands offer increased performance in terms of communication skills, flexibility and interference resistance to meet the future needs of hosts.
This program meets the needs of armies in terms of satellite telecommunications capabilities necessary for the commitment of French forces and command of deployed soldiers in the country and at overseas operations (OPEX), including those on areas priorities defined by the White Paper on Defence and National Security 2013, extended from the Atlantic to the West Indies.
The Ministry of Defence has ordered from Thales Alenia Space and Airbus Defence and Space two military telecommunications satellites COMSAT NG. The amount of this program is 3.8 billion euros over 17 years.
And a record of more buckled ... The Directorate General of Armaments (DGA) notified Tuesday at Thales Alenia Space (TAS) and Airbus Defence and Space achieving two satellites COMSAT program NG (new generation communications satellites ). They will replace, as of 2021, the Syracuse 3A satellite Syracuse 3B and currently in orbit. The contract also includes the implementation of the ground segment for controlling these new satellites, achieving the main ground antennas for their use and support of these means for a period of 17 years from the setting first satellite service. The launch of the two satellites will be provided by Arianespace.
The COMSAT NG program should allow "the continued consistency of communications in the country and with the priority areas of interest, as well as our ships at sea at any time (peace, crisis or major disaster)," explained minsitère of Defence in a statement released Wednesday.
Reportedly, the program amounts to 3.8 billion euros over a 17 year period, including 1 billion euros for the first installment for the construction of the first two satellites. The construction of the 2015 budget included a commitment authorization of 817 million euros this year. In 2016, 170.30 million of commitment authorizations and € 69.8 million in payments are recorded on the finance bill for the benefit of COMSAT NG. Technological risks raising work was initiated in 2013 and the development phase in June 2014.
Thales (65%) and Airbus (35%) share the program
The Ministry of Defence has appointed Thales Alenia Space (TAS), which will be representative, the prime contractor of the complete system (satellites and ground segment). CAS, which until now was the prime contractor for the Syracuse system, will also be responsible payloads, including X-band, which is used for nuclear deterrence, Ka-band, used for satellite internet, and anti-jamming, says one in The Tribune. This industrial scheme should also be extended to export. Including Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, who wish to acquire military telecommunications satellites.
Both share the industrial construction of two satellites. Airbus will use its electric Eurostar 3000 platform TAS Spacebus while Neo, who was born thanks to the European program of ESA (European Space Agency), Neosat. This program will allow a reduction of 30% of the cost of satellites from the current concepts. In total, the Defense Ministry told TAS about 65% of the program and 35% to Airbus. Alongside the consortium comprising Airbus TAS and DS, industrial organization also includes companies Thales Communications & Security and Telespazio France, which are the main contractors.
Marketing of spare capacity
After long hesitated to purchase capacity in public-private partnership (Nectarproject), the Ministry of Defence will eventually buy COMSAT NG very classic way. But it has introduced a new, part of the contract is the subject of a public private partnership (PPP) between the state and the two industrial. TAS and Airbus can not resell used by the French armed forces capabilities. Moreover, the State has taken advantage of this new feature to put pressure on both the industrial contract amount in order to lower the price of COMSAT NG system. This has played less than 10% of the total contract amount, according to our information.
For now, the two industrialists, via their subsidiary services (Telespazio Thales and Airbus Defence and Space Services) will be able to market their accounts are not used by the French armed forces capabilities, particularly early in the commissioning COMSAT NG (2020-2030). Because the program is designed for the French Army at the end of life (2030 to 2035). The state, which has already benefited from the PPP to lower the amount of the contract, could also recover a portion of the proceeds from the marketing of overcapacity COMSAT NG if both industrial manage to sell beyond the objectives set by the contract .
A foundation stone for information literacy
The primary means for long-distance telecommunications, satellite communication systems constitute "a cornerstone for the control of information, key to the superiority of our forces,the ministry said. The control of information allows all levels of commitment, from the strategic to the combat platform to assess the situation and to conduct operational activities ".Realized satellites, operating in X and Ka bands offer increased performance in terms of communication skills, flexibility and interference resistance to meet the future needs of hosts.
This program meets the needs of armies in terms of satellite telecommunications capabilities necessary for the commitment of French forces and command of deployed soldiers in the country and at overseas operations (OPEX), including those on areas priorities defined by the White Paper on Defence and National Security 2013, extended from the Atlantic to the West Indies.
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صناعة قطعة زى دى بنقل تكنولوجيا ويكون لك حق التصدير ده مكسب كبيييييير
بس الاخوة اخطأوا لما وضعوه فى مقارنة بجاويند
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أنا كده إتلغبطت !!
فى واحد صاحبى مغربى ترجم الخبر كالآتى :
في العنوان :بيع قمرين صناعين لمصر
من المتوقع ان يتم التوقيع على عقد بيع قمرين صناعيين فرنسيين يوم الثلاتاء مع مصر القمر الاول مخصص للإستطلاع والمراقبة والثاني للإتصالات العسكرية
وقالت الصحيفة أيضا
إن السيسي أبدى إهتمامه بقطع بحرية فرنسية بعدد أربعة إثنان منهم من طراز opv تبلغ قيمتها 580 مليون اورو مجتمعة
وكانت مصر قد أقتنت قبل ذلك اربع كورفيتات جاويند من فرنسا وفرقاطة تحيا مصر المتوقع وكذا حاملتي مروحيات من طراز ميسترال طور البناء
وفي افق 2020 صيبح في البحرية المصرية 11 قطعة بحرية ذات صناعة فرنسية 6 منها تم طلبها رسميا والتوقيع عليها 2ميسترال و 4 جاويند
فى واحد صاحبى مغربى ترجم الخبر كالآتى :
في العنوان :بيع قمرين صناعين لمصر
من المتوقع ان يتم التوقيع على عقد بيع قمرين صناعيين فرنسيين يوم الثلاتاء مع مصر القمر الاول مخصص للإستطلاع والمراقبة والثاني للإتصالات العسكرية
وقالت الصحيفة أيضا
إن السيسي أبدى إهتمامه بقطع بحرية فرنسية بعدد أربعة إثنان منهم من طراز opv تبلغ قيمتها 580 مليون اورو مجتمعة
وكانت مصر قد أقتنت قبل ذلك اربع كورفيتات جاويند من فرنسا وفرقاطة تحيا مصر المتوقع وكذا حاملتي مروحيات من طراز ميسترال طور البناء
وفي افق 2020 صيبح في البحرية المصرية 11 قطعة بحرية ذات صناعة فرنسية 6 منها تم طلبها رسميا والتوقيع عليها 2ميسترال و 4 جاويند
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هل كده التوقيع على عقد الأقمار الصناعية يوم الثلاثاء ولا لسه لم يتم الإتفاق بشأنهم !
