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* максимальная
* минимальная
280—480 км
30 км
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* максимальная
* минимальная
150 км
10 км
Дальность стрельбы (ПКР):
* максимальная
* минимальная
90 км
5 км
المديات
لكن فيه ايضا كروز
و صاروخ له كذا شكل منها ارض ارض ارض جو دفاع ساحلي
مشروع كبير جدا هو ليس تمويل صاروخ هو تمويل مجمع صورايخ متعددة الاستخدام
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"Alder" and "Neptune": Ukrainian army will launch super protective Kremlin
Friday, January 29, 2016, 12:17
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Modern Ukrainian weapons could be more perfect than "Iskander" that Russians love to flaunt.
Layout "Thunder" at the exhibition in Kiev. Photo: Observer.
Ukraine will have its own standards weapons XXI century, which is able to fully protect the country from any attack from Russia. President Petro Poroshenko said that the country will receive Missiles under the "Alder" cruise missiles and systems engineering solutions based on the "Neptune." Columnist figured out that development can hide behind these projects. And also what is now the distance from the center of fierce village in Sumy region to the center of Moscow, could be very important for Putin. News broadcast Patriots of Ukraine .
missile shield
The existence of the project, "Alder" for the first time the general public became aware after the statement Poroshenko at the meeting of the National Security Council on 27 January. "The President also instructed the government customers with the State Concern" Ukroboronprom "in planning the defense order in 2016 to ensure the development and purchase of the benefit of the Ground Troops MAT missile under the project" Alder ", complexes of cruise missiles on the basis of the technical solutions of the project" Neptune ". this information was published the press service of the Presidential Administration of Ukraine, on the basis of the National Security Council meeting on 27 January.
Under this name, according to all public figures, hiding a series of development of the Dnepropetrovsk CB "Southern" to establish a tactical long-range missile systems. KB "South", which created the legendary ballistic missile "Satan", engaged in the development of such weapons in 2009. Then the project was called "Sapsan", which involves the creation of a universal complex for the purpose of destruction on the earth, water and air.
But successfully "we buried" and cut funding for the reign of Yanukovych's project under various pretexts. In parallel with the project "Sapsan" developers offered another version, dubbed "Thunder", created to replace the aging missiles "Tochka-U".
But this project diligently hiding "under the carpet". In the end, the projects were completely buried under Yanukovych. The then Minister of Defense of Ukraine Pavel Lebedev in 2013 completely stopped and so meager funding. Recall that during the Revolution Advantages Lebedev fled to the Crimea, and is now being sought for the systematic destruction of Defence of Ukraine and other crimes.
In addition to the projects "Sapsan" and "Thunder", "Southern" on its own initiative, in simple words - at their own expense, led the development of a cruise missile "Kite". This cruise missile by the opportunities meets the world-famous US BGM-109 Tomahawk.
But since the beginning of the Russian aggression on Ukraine's ability to create a missile shield remembered again. All developments were radically revised to increase the combat capabilities, the money allocated for their implementation. And all the achievements at both complexes have resulted in projects "Alder" and "Neptune", which received the highest priority.
Given the potential of these complexes, Ukraine will receive from them a real missile shield, whereby in the event of aggression, command centers, communication centers, military bases, airports, warehouses and databases provide the enemy will be destroyed by precision-guided weapons. This will paralyze the enemy's entire military machine, causing him irreparable damage.
The "Alder"
Under the project, "Alder", according to the president, appears missile system. In the day of the meeting the NSDC CEO "Ukroboronprom" separately incriminated state program on creation of a multifunctional complex "Sapsan". Earlier on this project has repeatedly said the NSDC Secretary Oleksandr Turchynov.
"The relatively short-range missiles, including the" Sapsan ", this issue is under the strict control of the National Security Council, and today I want to say that our designers work out the operational-tactical missile that exceeds on the parameters the project, which at the time was the name of the "Sapsan", - said Turchinov the end of 2015. Focusing on the fact that all of weapons components are of Ukrainian origin..
The "Peregrine" is a unique solution for the creation of a universal rocket. Developers "Yuzhmash" originally decided to start from the concept that one missile will be used to engage different types of targets - land, air and sea.
Thus, creating a single missile and equipping it with various warheads and guidance systems, Ukraine receives both a new means of air defense, coastal protection and long-range operational-tactical complex. Of the three components, the most public option is to destroy ground targets. He also frequently appears as a set of "Thunder" and was shown at the exhibition "Arms and Security" in Kiev.
It is a mobile launcher with two missiles such as "ground-ground". According to official data, this complex take out enemy missiles at a distance of up to 300 kilometers. But it may well be formal legal restrictions that due to the "Regime Missile Technology Control," which prohibits the sale of foreign states missiles "ground-ground" with greater range.
When ordering those missiles Ukrainian army action "Control Regime" force will not have, and therefore will be able to transfer the army gunsmiths more long-range systems. According to available information the real range of "Thunder" can be up to 500 kilometers. The same scheme is used and Russia with their missiles "Caliber" and "Iskander" in the export version for foreign countries of their combat capabilities specifically trims up to 300 km, at the time. Russian army uses the full version.
Also known weight and warhead missiles - up to 480 kg. Warheads such weights are used in the Russian "Iskander" and Soviet "Tochka-U". This warhead weight is sufficient for the purpose of destruction in the area of 10 thousand square meters, with the use of cluster charge or on an area of 2-3 hectares of conventional high-explosive charge.
In a combat unit can be mounted charge-air explosives, the so-called "vacuum bombs", or concrete-piercing ammunition for the destruction of ultra-secure facilities, such as underground command posts. An important feature is the ability to rocket flight not only on a ballistic trajectory forecast, but also aeroballistic. The peculiarity of the flight is that the rocket makes unpredictable for the enemy "jumps", moving away from the missile. This will ensure a breakthrough defense of any complexity.
It is noteworthy that the same technology used in Russia and its rocket "Iskander", saying that at the moment there is no means of defense, capable to intercept a missile. So, widely advertised by the Kremlin-S-300 and S-400 will be powerless.
Another important part of Ukrainian "Thunder", which significantly increases the combat capabilities of the complex, is the placement of two rockets on a launcher. Thus, one can release the crew of just two missiles at two different targets simultaneously. This feature is also used in the Russian "Iskander-M".
Methods missile guidance Ukrainian developers did not disclose, only noting that the accuracy of the "Thunder" is at the global level, which is used a whole range of high-precision tools. In any case, Dnepropetrovsk engineers has extensive experience creating rockets that fall right on target, even after a flight of 10 thousand kilometers.
In fact, in the KB "South" already have electronic systems inertial guidance when the missile itself calculates your flight. "Embossed" guidance, when the computer compares the mortgaged map with the area under the rocket, as well as radar, for example, if you want to destroy the air defense system of the object. Also we can not exclude, especially considering the cooperation with the US, the use of high-precision satellite navigation.
Thus, taking into account the official firing range of 300 kilometers, it is enough to destroy any target in the occupied territory of Donbass. And if necessary, it will suffice to reach the advanced airfields and military bases on the territory of RF.Tak, 300-kilometer zone of action is at least six major air bases. If we assume that the range is still 500 kilometers, you can at the same time to remember that, for example, from the center of the village of evil, in the Sumy region to the Kremlin - 466 kilometers.
Проект "Нептун"
As already announced, President, under the guise of the project "Neptune" is hiding a cruise missile. The only similar to the development of Ukrainian - system "Kite" from the "Southern". It has also been demonstrated on "Arms and Security" exhibition. This land-based cruise missile can destroy targets, according to official data, which could well affect "legal" restrictions, up to 280 kilometers.
Cruise missile "Kite", compared with "Thunder" has a much smaller size and thus can be based not only on the ground launchers but also on ships and even fighter Su-27. And you can place just four launchers on a wheeled platform.
Due to the fact that the "Kite" - a cruise missile, its task is to pass on the enemy's air defense midget height up to 50 meters below the "radar level", skirting the terrain. This allows you to break through any modern air defense system. In addition to the KB "South" was originally talked about the use of stealth technology, which makes rocket much less noticeable.
Ukrainian warhead cruise missile and weighing 480 kilograms, and hence the possibility of destruction of the goals in "Kite" similar to the "Thunder". An important part of combat characteristics "Kite" is possible "technological reserve" range. Thus, X-555 missile, which has a substantially identical size and weight, is equipped with the same engine power, and bear the same charge, by weight, flies at distance 2000 km.
Given the experience in the realities of international agreements, such as the Budapest Memorandum, such a "technological reserve" can become quite superfluous. Thus, the range of possibilities for "Kite" action in the base case are almost identical to "Thunder". And if we consider a possible "technological reserve" in the 2000 kilometers, then, for comparison, the distance from the Ukraine to the "capital of the Ural" Yekaterinburg - about 1.8 thousand kilometers.
Ready projects
Disclose information about the beginning of the production of "Thunder" and "Kite" and the timing of their transfer to the troops at a meeting of the National Security Council did not. But the readiness of the project is already possible to evaluate the success of the current Ukrainian armourers, who were publicly presented by them. For example, even last year's exhibition "Arms and Security" first stage solid-fuel "Thunder" was shown.
And for "Kite" Zaporozhye "Motor Sich" prepared by the MS-400 engine, which by its characteristics similar to the engine R95-300, with lighter by 50 kg. It is worth noting that the R95-300 engine used in cruise missiles X-55 and X-555. And in modern Russian stealth missile X-101, which has only recently been used in Russia for the first time in firing at Syrian territory and flew up to 2 thousand kilometers.
In turn, the question of the deployment of missiles on a wheeled platform decided Ukrainian KrAZ.He demonstrated a multifunctional chassis KrAZ-7634NE. The technical capabilities of the machine: wheel formula 8x8 all-terrain, payload up to 27 tons, the Ford motor company or the Deutz, with a capacity of 500-600 hp, speed to 100 km / h. The size and capacity of the chassis more than enough to accommodate two launchers "Thunder" or four "Kite".
Thus, especially in view of the willingness of the official authorities to reveal information not only about the existence of projects, but also about their highest priority at the moment is the question Ukrainian armourers final materials and establishing production of new missile.
Friday, January 29, 2016, 12:17
VKTwitterOdnoklassnikiGoogle+
Modern Ukrainian weapons could be more perfect than "Iskander" that Russians love to flaunt.
Ukraine will have its own standards weapons XXI century, which is able to fully protect the country from any attack from Russia. President Petro Poroshenko said that the country will receive Missiles under the "Alder" cruise missiles and systems engineering solutions based on the "Neptune." Columnist figured out that development can hide behind these projects. And also what is now the distance from the center of fierce village in Sumy region to the center of Moscow, could be very important for Putin. News broadcast Patriots of Ukraine .
missile shield
The existence of the project, "Alder" for the first time the general public became aware after the statement Poroshenko at the meeting of the National Security Council on 27 January. "The President also instructed the government customers with the State Concern" Ukroboronprom "in planning the defense order in 2016 to ensure the development and purchase of the benefit of the Ground Troops MAT missile under the project" Alder ", complexes of cruise missiles on the basis of the technical solutions of the project" Neptune ". this information was published the press service of the Presidential Administration of Ukraine, on the basis of the National Security Council meeting on 27 January.
Under this name, according to all public figures, hiding a series of development of the Dnepropetrovsk CB "Southern" to establish a tactical long-range missile systems. KB "South", which created the legendary ballistic missile "Satan", engaged in the development of such weapons in 2009. Then the project was called "Sapsan", which involves the creation of a universal complex for the purpose of destruction on the earth, water and air.
But successfully "we buried" and cut funding for the reign of Yanukovych's project under various pretexts. In parallel with the project "Sapsan" developers offered another version, dubbed "Thunder", created to replace the aging missiles "Tochka-U".
But this project diligently hiding "under the carpet". In the end, the projects were completely buried under Yanukovych. The then Minister of Defense of Ukraine Pavel Lebedev in 2013 completely stopped and so meager funding. Recall that during the Revolution Advantages Lebedev fled to the Crimea, and is now being sought for the systematic destruction of Defence of Ukraine and other crimes.
In addition to the projects "Sapsan" and "Thunder", "Southern" on its own initiative, in simple words - at their own expense, led the development of a cruise missile "Kite". This cruise missile by the opportunities meets the world-famous US BGM-109 Tomahawk.
But since the beginning of the Russian aggression on Ukraine's ability to create a missile shield remembered again. All developments were radically revised to increase the combat capabilities, the money allocated for their implementation. And all the achievements at both complexes have resulted in projects "Alder" and "Neptune", which received the highest priority.
Given the potential of these complexes, Ukraine will receive from them a real missile shield, whereby in the event of aggression, command centers, communication centers, military bases, airports, warehouses and databases provide the enemy will be destroyed by precision-guided weapons. This will paralyze the enemy's entire military machine, causing him irreparable damage.
The "Alder"
Under the project, "Alder", according to the president, appears missile system. In the day of the meeting the NSDC CEO "Ukroboronprom" separately incriminated state program on creation of a multifunctional complex "Sapsan". Earlier on this project has repeatedly said the NSDC Secretary Oleksandr Turchynov.
"The relatively short-range missiles, including the" Sapsan ", this issue is under the strict control of the National Security Council, and today I want to say that our designers work out the operational-tactical missile that exceeds on the parameters the project, which at the time was the name of the "Sapsan", - said Turchinov the end of 2015. Focusing on the fact that all of weapons components are of Ukrainian origin..
The "Peregrine" is a unique solution for the creation of a universal rocket. Developers "Yuzhmash" originally decided to start from the concept that one missile will be used to engage different types of targets - land, air and sea.
Thus, creating a single missile and equipping it with various warheads and guidance systems, Ukraine receives both a new means of air defense, coastal protection and long-range operational-tactical complex. Of the three components, the most public option is to destroy ground targets. He also frequently appears as a set of "Thunder" and was shown at the exhibition "Arms and Security" in Kiev.
It is a mobile launcher with two missiles such as "ground-ground". According to official data, this complex take out enemy missiles at a distance of up to 300 kilometers. But it may well be formal legal restrictions that due to the "Regime Missile Technology Control," which prohibits the sale of foreign states missiles "ground-ground" with greater range.
When ordering those missiles Ukrainian army action "Control Regime" force will not have, and therefore will be able to transfer the army gunsmiths more long-range systems. According to available information the real range of "Thunder" can be up to 500 kilometers. The same scheme is used and Russia with their missiles "Caliber" and "Iskander" in the export version for foreign countries of their combat capabilities specifically trims up to 300 km, at the time. Russian army uses the full version.
Also known weight and warhead missiles - up to 480 kg. Warheads such weights are used in the Russian "Iskander" and Soviet "Tochka-U". This warhead weight is sufficient for the purpose of destruction in the area of 10 thousand square meters, with the use of cluster charge or on an area of 2-3 hectares of conventional high-explosive charge.
In a combat unit can be mounted charge-air explosives, the so-called "vacuum bombs", or concrete-piercing ammunition for the destruction of ultra-secure facilities, such as underground command posts. An important feature is the ability to rocket flight not only on a ballistic trajectory forecast, but also aeroballistic. The peculiarity of the flight is that the rocket makes unpredictable for the enemy "jumps", moving away from the missile. This will ensure a breakthrough defense of any complexity.
It is noteworthy that the same technology used in Russia and its rocket "Iskander", saying that at the moment there is no means of defense, capable to intercept a missile. So, widely advertised by the Kremlin-S-300 and S-400 will be powerless.
Another important part of Ukrainian "Thunder", which significantly increases the combat capabilities of the complex, is the placement of two rockets on a launcher. Thus, one can release the crew of just two missiles at two different targets simultaneously. This feature is also used in the Russian "Iskander-M".
Methods missile guidance Ukrainian developers did not disclose, only noting that the accuracy of the "Thunder" is at the global level, which is used a whole range of high-precision tools. In any case, Dnepropetrovsk engineers has extensive experience creating rockets that fall right on target, even after a flight of 10 thousand kilometers.
In fact, in the KB "South" already have electronic systems inertial guidance when the missile itself calculates your flight. "Embossed" guidance, when the computer compares the mortgaged map with the area under the rocket, as well as radar, for example, if you want to destroy the air defense system of the object. Also we can not exclude, especially considering the cooperation with the US, the use of high-precision satellite navigation.
Thus, taking into account the official firing range of 300 kilometers, it is enough to destroy any target in the occupied territory of Donbass. And if necessary, it will suffice to reach the advanced airfields and military bases on the territory of RF.Tak, 300-kilometer zone of action is at least six major air bases. If we assume that the range is still 500 kilometers, you can at the same time to remember that, for example, from the center of the village of evil, in the Sumy region to the Kremlin - 466 kilometers.
Проект "Нептун"
As already announced, President, under the guise of the project "Neptune" is hiding a cruise missile. The only similar to the development of Ukrainian - system "Kite" from the "Southern". It has also been demonstrated on "Arms and Security" exhibition. This land-based cruise missile can destroy targets, according to official data, which could well affect "legal" restrictions, up to 280 kilometers.
Cruise missile "Kite", compared with "Thunder" has a much smaller size and thus can be based not only on the ground launchers but also on ships and even fighter Su-27. And you can place just four launchers on a wheeled platform.
Due to the fact that the "Kite" - a cruise missile, its task is to pass on the enemy's air defense midget height up to 50 meters below the "radar level", skirting the terrain. This allows you to break through any modern air defense system. In addition to the KB "South" was originally talked about the use of stealth technology, which makes rocket much less noticeable.
Ukrainian warhead cruise missile and weighing 480 kilograms, and hence the possibility of destruction of the goals in "Kite" similar to the "Thunder". An important part of combat characteristics "Kite" is possible "technological reserve" range. Thus, X-555 missile, which has a substantially identical size and weight, is equipped with the same engine power, and bear the same charge, by weight, flies at distance 2000 km.
Given the experience in the realities of international agreements, such as the Budapest Memorandum, such a "technological reserve" can become quite superfluous. Thus, the range of possibilities for "Kite" action in the base case are almost identical to "Thunder". And if we consider a possible "technological reserve" in the 2000 kilometers, then, for comparison, the distance from the Ukraine to the "capital of the Ural" Yekaterinburg - about 1.8 thousand kilometers.
Ready projects
Disclose information about the beginning of the production of "Thunder" and "Kite" and the timing of their transfer to the troops at a meeting of the National Security Council did not. But the readiness of the project is already possible to evaluate the success of the current Ukrainian armourers, who were publicly presented by them. For example, even last year's exhibition "Arms and Security" first stage solid-fuel "Thunder" was shown.
And for "Kite" Zaporozhye "Motor Sich" prepared by the MS-400 engine, which by its characteristics similar to the engine R95-300, with lighter by 50 kg. It is worth noting that the R95-300 engine used in cruise missiles X-55 and X-555. And in modern Russian stealth missile X-101, which has only recently been used in Russia for the first time in firing at Syrian territory and flew up to 2 thousand kilometers.
In turn, the question of the deployment of missiles on a wheeled platform decided Ukrainian KrAZ.He demonstrated a multifunctional chassis KrAZ-7634NE. The technical capabilities of the machine: wheel formula 8x8 all-terrain, payload up to 27 tons, the Ford motor company or the Deutz, with a capacity of 500-600 hp, speed to 100 km / h. The size and capacity of the chassis more than enough to accommodate two launchers "Thunder" or four "Kite".
Thus, especially in view of the willingness of the official authorities to reveal information not only about the existence of projects, but also about their highest priority at the moment is the question Ukrainian armourers final materials and establishing production of new missile.
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"Alder" and "Neptune": Ukrainian army will launch super protective Kremlin
Friday, January 29, 2016, 12:17
VKTwitterOdnoklassnikiGoogle+
Modern Ukrainian weapons could be more perfect than "Iskander" that Russians love to flaunt.
Layout "Thunder" at the exhibition in Kiev. Photo: Observer.
Ukraine will have its own standards weapons XXI century, which is able to fully protect the country from any attack from Russia. President Petro Poroshenko said that the country will receive Missiles under the "Alder" cruise missiles and systems engineering solutions based on the "Neptune." Columnist figured out that development can hide behind these projects. And also what is now the distance from the center of fierce village in Sumy region to the center of Moscow, could be very important for Putin. News broadcast Patriots of Ukraine .
missile shield
The existence of the project, "Alder" for the first time the general public became aware after the statement Poroshenko at the meeting of the National Security Council on 27 January. "The President also instructed the government customers with the State Concern" Ukroboronprom "in planning the defense order in 2016 to ensure the development and purchase of the benefit of the Ground Troops MAT missile under the project" Alder ", complexes of cruise missiles on the basis of the technical solutions of the project" Neptune ". this information was published the press service of the Presidential Administration of Ukraine, on the basis of the National Security Council meeting on 27 January.
Under this name, according to all public figures, hiding a series of development of the Dnepropetrovsk CB "Southern" to establish a tactical long-range missile systems. KB "South", which created the legendary ballistic missile "Satan", engaged in the development of such weapons in 2009. Then the project was called "Sapsan", which involves the creation of a universal complex for the purpose of destruction on the earth, water and air.
But successfully "we buried" and cut funding for the reign of Yanukovych's project under various pretexts. In parallel with the project "Sapsan" developers offered another version, dubbed "Thunder", created to replace the aging missiles "Tochka-U".
But this project diligently hiding "under the carpet". In the end, the projects were completely buried under Yanukovych. The then Minister of Defense of Ukraine Pavel Lebedev in 2013 completely stopped and so meager funding. Recall that during the Revolution Advantages Lebedev fled to the Crimea, and is now being sought for the systematic destruction of Defence of Ukraine and other crimes.
In addition to the projects "Sapsan" and "Thunder", "Southern" on its own initiative, in simple words - at their own expense, led the development of a cruise missile "Kite". This cruise missile by the opportunities meets the world-famous US BGM-109 Tomahawk.
But since the beginning of the Russian aggression on Ukraine's ability to create a missile shield remembered again. All developments were radically revised to increase the combat capabilities, the money allocated for their implementation. And all the achievements at both complexes have resulted in projects "Alder" and "Neptune", which received the highest priority.
Given the potential of these complexes, Ukraine will receive from them a real missile shield, whereby in the event of aggression, command centers, communication centers, military bases, airports, warehouses and databases provide the enemy will be destroyed by precision-guided weapons. This will paralyze the enemy's entire military machine, causing him irreparable damage.
The "Alder"
Under the project, "Alder", according to the president, appears missile system. In the day of the meeting the NSDC CEO "Ukroboronprom" separately incriminated state program on creation of a multifunctional complex "Sapsan". Earlier on this project has repeatedly said the NSDC Secretary Oleksandr Turchynov.
"The relatively short-range missiles, including the" Sapsan ", this issue is under the strict control of the National Security Council, and today I want to say that our designers work out the operational-tactical missile that exceeds on the parameters the project, which at the time was the name of the "Sapsan", - said Turchinov the end of 2015. Focusing on the fact that all of weapons components are of Ukrainian origin..
The "Peregrine" is a unique solution for the creation of a universal rocket. Developers "Yuzhmash" originally decided to start from the concept that one missile will be used to engage different types of targets - land, air and sea.
Thus, creating a single missile and equipping it with various warheads and guidance systems, Ukraine receives both a new means of air defense, coastal protection and long-range operational-tactical complex. Of the three components, the most public option is to destroy ground targets. He also frequently appears as a set of "Thunder" and was shown at the exhibition "Arms and Security" in Kiev.
It is a mobile launcher with two missiles such as "ground-ground". According to official data, this complex take out enemy missiles at a distance of up to 300 kilometers. But it may well be formal legal restrictions that due to the "Regime Missile Technology Control," which prohibits the sale of foreign states missiles "ground-ground" with greater range.
When ordering those missiles Ukrainian army action "Control Regime" force will not have, and therefore will be able to transfer the army gunsmiths more long-range systems. According to available information the real range of "Thunder" can be up to 500 kilometers. The same scheme is used and Russia with their missiles "Caliber" and "Iskander" in the export version for foreign countries of their combat capabilities specifically trims up to 300 km, at the time. Russian army uses the full version.
Also known weight and warhead missiles - up to 480 kg. Warheads such weights are used in the Russian "Iskander" and Soviet "Tochka-U". This warhead weight is sufficient for the purpose of destruction in the area of 10 thousand square meters, with the use of cluster charge or on an area of 2-3 hectares of conventional high-explosive charge.
In a combat unit can be mounted charge-air explosives, the so-called "vacuum bombs", or concrete-piercing ammunition for the destruction of ultra-secure facilities, such as underground command posts. An important feature is the ability to rocket flight not only on a ballistic trajectory forecast, but also aeroballistic. The peculiarity of the flight is that the rocket makes unpredictable for the enemy "jumps", moving away from the missile. This will ensure a breakthrough defense of any complexity.
It is noteworthy that the same technology used in Russia and its rocket "Iskander", saying that at the moment there is no means of defense, capable to intercept a missile. So, widely advertised by the Kremlin-S-300 and S-400 will be powerless.
Another important part of Ukrainian "Thunder", which significantly increases the combat capabilities of the complex, is the placement of two rockets on a launcher. Thus, one can release the crew of just two missiles at two different targets simultaneously. This feature is also used in the Russian "Iskander-M".
Methods missile guidance Ukrainian developers did not disclose, only noting that the accuracy of the "Thunder" is at the global level, which is used a whole range of high-precision tools. In any case, Dnepropetrovsk engineers has extensive experience creating rockets that fall right on target, even after a flight of 10 thousand kilometers.
In fact, in the KB "South" already have electronic systems inertial guidance when the missile itself calculates your flight. "Embossed" guidance, when the computer compares the mortgaged map with the area under the rocket, as well as radar, for example, if you want to destroy the air defense system of the object. Also we can not exclude, especially considering the cooperation with the US, the use of high-precision satellite navigation.
Thus, taking into account the official firing range of 300 kilometers, it is enough to destroy any target in the occupied territory of Donbass. And if necessary, it will suffice to reach the advanced airfields and military bases on the territory of RF.Tak, 300-kilometer zone of action is at least six major air bases. If we assume that the range is still 500 kilometers, you can at the same time to remember that, for example, from the center of the village of evil, in the Sumy region to the Kremlin - 466 kilometers.
Проект "Нептун"
As already announced, President, under the guise of the project "Neptune" is hiding a cruise missile. The only similar to the development of Ukrainian - system "Kite" from the "Southern". It has also been demonstrated on "Arms and Security" exhibition. This land-based cruise missile can destroy targets, according to official data, which could well affect "legal" restrictions, up to 280 kilometers.
Cruise missile "Kite", compared with "Thunder" has a much smaller size and thus can be based not only on the ground launchers but also on ships and even fighter Su-27. And you can place just four launchers on a wheeled platform.
Due to the fact that the "Kite" - a cruise missile, its task is to pass on the enemy's air defense midget height up to 50 meters below the "radar level", skirting the terrain. This allows you to break through any modern air defense system. In addition to the KB "South" was originally talked about the use of stealth technology, which makes rocket much less noticeable.
Ukrainian warhead cruise missile and weighing 480 kilograms, and hence the possibility of destruction of the goals in "Kite" similar to the "Thunder". An important part of combat characteristics "Kite" is possible "technological reserve" range. Thus, X-555 missile, which has a substantially identical size and weight, is equipped with the same engine power, and bear the same charge, by weight, flies at distance 2000 km.
Given the experience in the realities of international agreements, such as the Budapest Memorandum, such a "technological reserve" can become quite superfluous. Thus, the range of possibilities for "Kite" action in the base case are almost identical to "Thunder". And if we consider a possible "technological reserve" in the 2000 kilometers, then, for comparison, the distance from the Ukraine to the "capital of the Ural" Yekaterinburg - about 1.8 thousand kilometers.
Ready projects
Disclose information about the beginning of the production of "Thunder" and "Kite" and the timing of their transfer to the troops at a meeting of the National Security Council did not. But the readiness of the project is already possible to evaluate the success of the current Ukrainian armourers, who were publicly presented by them. For example, even last year's exhibition "Arms and Security" first stage solid-fuel "Thunder" was shown.
And for "Kite" Zaporozhye "Motor Sich" prepared by the MS-400 engine, which by its characteristics similar to the engine R95-300, with lighter by 50 kg. It is worth noting that the R95-300 engine used in cruise missiles X-55 and X-555. And in modern Russian stealth missile X-101, which has only recently been used in Russia for the first time in firing at Syrian territory and flew up to 2 thousand kilometers.
In turn, the question of the deployment of missiles on a wheeled platform decided Ukrainian KrAZ.He demonstrated a multifunctional chassis KrAZ-7634NE. The technical capabilities of the machine: wheel formula 8x8 all-terrain, payload up to 27 tons, the Ford motor company or the Deutz, with a capacity of 500-600 hp, speed to 100 km / h. The size and capacity of the chassis more than enough to accommodate two launchers "Thunder" or four "Kite".
Thus, especially in view of the willingness of the official authorities to reveal information not only about the existence of projects, but also about their highest priority at the moment is the question Ukrainian armourers final materials and establishing production of new missile.
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يقولون يطير تحت الرادار ب 50 متر مجاري لتصاريس و مستو البحر
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"Alder" and "Neptune": Ukrainian army will launch super protective Kremlin
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Modern Ukrainian weapons could be more perfect than "Iskander" that Russians love to flaunt.
Layout "Thunder" at the exhibition in Kiev. Photo: Observer.
Ukraine will have its own standards weapons XXI century, which is able to fully protect the country from any attack from Russia. President Petro Poroshenko said that the country will receive Missiles under the "Alder" cruise missiles and systems engineering solutions based on the "Neptune." Columnist figured out that development can hide behind these projects. And also what is now the distance from the center of fierce village in Sumy region to the center of Moscow, could be very important for Putin. News broadcast Patriots of Ukraine .
missile shield
The existence of the project, "Alder" for the first time the general public became aware after the statement Poroshenko at the meeting of the National Security Council on 27 January. "The President also instructed the government customers with the State Concern" Ukroboronprom "in planning the defense order in 2016 to ensure the development and purchase of the benefit of the Ground Troops MAT missile under the project" Alder ", complexes of cruise missiles on the basis of the technical solutions of the project" Neptune ". this information was published the press service of the Presidential Administration of Ukraine, on the basis of the National Security Council meeting on 27 January.
Under this name, according to all public figures, hiding a series of development of the Dnepropetrovsk CB "Southern" to establish a tactical long-range missile systems. KB "South", which created the legendary ballistic missile "Satan", engaged in the development of such weapons in 2009. Then the project was called "Sapsan", which involves the creation of a universal complex for the purpose of destruction on the earth, water and air.
But successfully "we buried" and cut funding for the reign of Yanukovych's project under various pretexts. In parallel with the project "Sapsan" developers offered another version, dubbed "Thunder", created to replace the aging missiles "Tochka-U".
But this project diligently hiding "under the carpet". In the end, the projects were completely buried under Yanukovych. The then Minister of Defense of Ukraine Pavel Lebedev in 2013 completely stopped and so meager funding. Recall that during the Revolution Advantages Lebedev fled to the Crimea, and is now being sought for the systematic destruction of Defence of Ukraine and other crimes.
In addition to the projects "Sapsan" and "Thunder", "Southern" on its own initiative, in simple words - at their own expense, led the development of a cruise missile "Kite". This cruise missile by the opportunities meets the world-famous US BGM-109 Tomahawk.
But since the beginning of the Russian aggression on Ukraine's ability to create a missile shield remembered again. All developments were radically revised to increase the combat capabilities, the money allocated for their implementation. And all the achievements at both complexes have resulted in projects "Alder" and "Neptune", which received the highest priority.
Given the potential of these complexes, Ukraine will receive from them a real missile shield, whereby in the event of aggression, command centers, communication centers, military bases, airports, warehouses and databases provide the enemy will be destroyed by precision-guided weapons. This will paralyze the enemy's entire military machine, causing him irreparable damage.
The "Alder"
Under the project, "Alder", according to the president, appears missile system. In the day of the meeting the NSDC CEO "Ukroboronprom" separately incriminated state program on creation of a multifunctional complex "Sapsan". Earlier on this project has repeatedly said the NSDC Secretary Oleksandr Turchynov.
"The relatively short-range missiles, including the" Sapsan ", this issue is under the strict control of the National Security Council, and today I want to say that our designers work out the operational-tactical missile that exceeds on the parameters the project, which at the time was the name of the "Sapsan", - said Turchinov the end of 2015. Focusing on the fact that all of weapons components are of Ukrainian origin..
The "Peregrine" is a unique solution for the creation of a universal rocket. Developers "Yuzhmash" originally decided to start from the concept that one missile will be used to engage different types of targets - land, air and sea.
Thus, creating a single missile and equipping it with various warheads and guidance systems, Ukraine receives both a new means of air defense, coastal protection and long-range operational-tactical complex. Of the three components, the most public option is to destroy ground targets. He also frequently appears as a set of "Thunder" and was shown at the exhibition "Arms and Security" in Kiev.
It is a mobile launcher with two missiles such as "ground-ground". According to official data, this complex take out enemy missiles at a distance of up to 300 kilometers. But it may well be formal legal restrictions that due to the "Regime Missile Technology Control," which prohibits the sale of foreign states missiles "ground-ground" with greater range.
When ordering those missiles Ukrainian army action "Control Regime" force will not have, and therefore will be able to transfer the army gunsmiths more long-range systems. According to available information the real range of "Thunder" can be up to 500 kilometers. The same scheme is used and Russia with their missiles "Caliber" and "Iskander" in the export version for foreign countries of their combat capabilities specifically trims up to 300 km, at the time. Russian army uses the full version.
Also known weight and warhead missiles - up to 480 kg. Warheads such weights are used in the Russian "Iskander" and Soviet "Tochka-U". This warhead weight is sufficient for the purpose of destruction in the area of 10 thousand square meters, with the use of cluster charge or on an area of 2-3 hectares of conventional high-explosive charge.
In a combat unit can be mounted charge-air explosives, the so-called "vacuum bombs", or concrete-piercing ammunition for the destruction of ultra-secure facilities, such as underground command posts. An important feature is the ability to rocket flight not only on a ballistic trajectory forecast, but also aeroballistic. The peculiarity of the flight is that the rocket makes unpredictable for the enemy "jumps", moving away from the missile. This will ensure a breakthrough defense of any complexity.
It is noteworthy that the same technology used in Russia and its rocket "Iskander", saying that at the moment there is no means of defense, capable to intercept a missile. So, widely advertised by the Kremlin-S-300 and S-400 will be powerless.
Another important part of Ukrainian "Thunder", which significantly increases the combat capabilities of the complex, is the placement of two rockets on a launcher. Thus, one can release the crew of just two missiles at two different targets simultaneously. This feature is also used in the Russian "Iskander-M".
Methods missile guidance Ukrainian developers did not disclose, only noting that the accuracy of the "Thunder" is at the global level, which is used a whole range of high-precision tools. In any case, Dnepropetrovsk engineers has extensive experience creating rockets that fall right on target, even after a flight of 10 thousand kilometers.
In fact, in the KB "South" already have electronic systems inertial guidance when the missile itself calculates your flight. "Embossed" guidance, when the computer compares the mortgaged map with the area under the rocket, as well as radar, for example, if you want to destroy the air defense system of the object. Also we can not exclude, especially considering the cooperation with the US, the use of high-precision satellite navigation.
Thus, taking into account the official firing range of 300 kilometers, it is enough to destroy any target in the occupied territory of Donbass. And if necessary, it will suffice to reach the advanced airfields and military bases on the territory of RF.Tak, 300-kilometer zone of action is at least six major air bases. If we assume that the range is still 500 kilometers, you can at the same time to remember that, for example, from the center of the village of evil, in the Sumy region to the Kremlin - 466 kilometers.
Проект "Нептун"
As already announced, President, under the guise of the project "Neptune" is hiding a cruise missile. The only similar to the development of Ukrainian - system "Kite" from the "Southern". It has also been demonstrated on "Arms and Security" exhibition. This land-based cruise missile can destroy targets, according to official data, which could well affect "legal" restrictions, up to 280 kilometers.
Cruise missile "Kite", compared with "Thunder" has a much smaller size and thus can be based not only on the ground launchers but also on ships and even fighter Su-27. And you can place just four launchers on a wheeled platform.
Due to the fact that the "Kite" - a cruise missile, its task is to pass on the enemy's air defense midget height up to 50 meters below the "radar level", skirting the terrain. This allows you to break through any modern air defense system. In addition to the KB "South" was originally talked about the use of stealth technology, which makes rocket much less noticeable.
Ukrainian warhead cruise missile and weighing 480 kilograms, and hence the possibility of destruction of the goals in "Kite" similar to the "Thunder". An important part of combat characteristics "Kite" is possible "technological reserve" range. Thus, X-555 missile, which has a substantially identical size and weight, is equipped with the same engine power, and bear the same charge, by weight, flies at distance 2000 km.
Given the experience in the realities of international agreements, such as the Budapest Memorandum, such a "technological reserve" can become quite superfluous. Thus, the range of possibilities for "Kite" action in the base case are almost identical to "Thunder". And if we consider a possible "technological reserve" in the 2000 kilometers, then, for comparison, the distance from the Ukraine to the "capital of the Ural" Yekaterinburg - about 1.8 thousand kilometers.
Ready projects
Disclose information about the beginning of the production of "Thunder" and "Kite" and the timing of their transfer to the troops at a meeting of the National Security Council did not. But the readiness of the project is already possible to evaluate the success of the current Ukrainian armourers, who were publicly presented by them. For example, even last year's exhibition "Arms and Security" first stage solid-fuel "Thunder" was shown.
And for "Kite" Zaporozhye "Motor Sich" prepared by the MS-400 engine, which by its characteristics similar to the engine R95-300, with lighter by 50 kg. It is worth noting that the R95-300 engine used in cruise missiles X-55 and X-555. And in modern Russian stealth missile X-101, which has only recently been used in Russia for the first time in firing at Syrian territory and flew up to 2 thousand kilometers.
In turn, the question of the deployment of missiles on a wheeled platform decided Ukrainian KrAZ.He demonstrated a multifunctional chassis KrAZ-7634NE. The technical capabilities of the machine: wheel formula 8x8 all-terrain, payload up to 27 tons, the Ford motor company or the Deutz, with a capacity of 500-600 hp, speed to 100 km / h. The size and capacity of the chassis more than enough to accommodate two launchers "Thunder" or four "Kite".
Thus, especially in view of the willingness of the official authorities to reveal information not only about the existence of projects, but also about their highest priority at the moment is the question Ukrainian armourers final materials and establishing production of new missile.
It is noteworthy that the same technology used in Russia and its rocket "Iskander", saying that at the moment there is no means of defense, capable to intercept a missile. So, widely advertised by the Kremlin-S-300 and S-400 will be powerless.
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هو اول مشروع اوكراني منذ سقوط الاتحاد السوفيتي
يهدف الى دفاع جوي ارض ارض كروز ارض جو مثل ماهو موضوخ في صورة
لكن اتكنسل ثم كتب له اعادة التصميم بشكل افضل بتمويل سعودي
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اما الكروز الصغير يستطيع حمله على طائرة سو 27
يهدف الى دفاع جوي ارض ارض كروز ارض جو مثل ماهو موضوخ في صورة
لكن اتكنسل ثم كتب له اعادة التصميم بشكل افضل بتمويل سعودي
المشروع الاول من 94-2003 تكنسل
اما الكروز الصغير يستطيع حمله على طائرة سو 27
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Це історія про недофінансування та бюрократію. Однак, нещодавно ситуація змінилася. Тепер гроші дає Саудівська Аравія. Розробляємо для них, а результатами скористаємося самі. Окрім коштів, партнерство з цією країною вирішує ще одну проблему – полігон. Все ж таки, щоб стрельнути на кілометрів 300 і не потрапити в якісь Бровари Аравійська пустеля зручніша локація, ніж Україна.
هذه هي قصة نقص التمويل والبيروقراطية. ومع ذلك، فقد تغير الوضع مؤخرا. الآن المال يعطي المملكة العربية السعودية. تطويرها، واستخدام النتائج لنفسك. بالإضافة إلى الأموال، والشراكة مع هذا البلد يحل مشكلة أخرى - المكب. بعد تبادل لاطلاق النار عند الكيلو 300 ولا ندخل في أي الصحراء العربية موقع مناسب بروفاري من أوكرانيا.
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تاريخ المجمع الصاروخي متعدد الوظائف طويل ومحزن. هذه هي قصة نقص التمويل والبيروقراطية. ومع ذلك، فقد تغير الوضع مؤخرا. الآن المال يعطي المملكة العربية السعودية. تطويرها، واستخدام النتائج لنفسك. بالإضافة إلى الأموال، والشراكة مع هذا البلد يحل مشكلة أخرى - المكب. بعد تبادل لاطلاق النار عند الكيلو 300 ولا ندخل في أي الصحراء العربية موقع مناسب بروفاري من أوكرانيا.
مظهر النظام الصاروخي التكتيكي هو مبين في "التسلح والأمن 2015" المعرض. قاذفة اثنين من الحاويات.
هناك وضع تخطيط ومحرك يعمل بالوقود الصلب للصواريخ.
في يوليو أفيد أن هذه المحركات هي لا يقل عن 5 وحدات. وعلاوة على ذلك، ثلاثة منهم بالفعل على مصنع كيميائي Pavlograd إرسال، حيث تستعد لاختبارات. في أحد البرامج أظهر مصنع المثال №5 المحرك في النهر.
برنامج يتحدث عن بعض الاختبارات. لكن من غير الواضح ما إذا كانت التجربة الصاروخية، أو مجرد محرك. معظم محاكمة موقف احتمالا هو المحرك. لهذه الأغراض في Pavlograd إرسال بناء وتجهيز الحظيرة. كان حزب المؤتمر الشعبي وKB في Yuzhnoye حرب طويلة مع SSAU، التي لم تعط موافقة لهذه الاختبارات. فاز Dnipryany - زعيم وكالة الافراج عنهم. اختبار يعلن في الخريف.
تنتج هذه الألغام التجمع من أجل جمع الصواريخ.
وترد أيضا ظهور المتوقع للصواريخ.
لفهم حجم تقريبي، يمكنك إلقاء نظرة على هذه الشاشة مع المحرك. صاروخ خطير سوو.
وفيما يتعلق بخصائص المتوقع، ودعا باستمرار مجموعة انطباع 280 كم مع خيار لزيادة إلى 500 كم. الانطباع المنطقة - 000 10 متر مربع.
واحدة من المروجين للمشروع، Pavlograd إرسال مدير مصنع للمواد الكيميائية ليونيد Schiemann يفسر احتمالات أن تفتح نجاح الرعد:
إذا قلنا أن نتمكن من إنشاء مجمع المهام، في المستقبل، فإننا يمكن أن تخلق استراتيجية تكتيكية معقدة، والتي لا تحمل التهديد النووي. لكن مجموعة من 7-10000 كم. ترى كم واحد منا حول دائرة نصف قطرها 7-10 ألف كيلو متر من تكنولوجيا المواد الخطرة. على سبيل المثال، ومحطات الطاقة النووية ومحطات الطاقة الكهرومائية، المصانع الكيماوية، الترسانات العسكرية. إذا كان هناك ردا على تهديد للوصول 10-15 دقيقة "المنتج" الذي يدمر كل شيء، ثم، نسبيا، وانتفاخ محطة توليد الكهرباء في ياروسلافل. التالي هدم تسع محطات على نهر الفولغا إلى استراخان. الجزء الأوسط كله من روسيا قطع من الكهرباء إلى الغاز، من التنقيب، الخ لا سمح الله، وكان ليفعل ذلك، ولكن علينا أن تجبر نفسك على احترام وقائي.
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هذه هي قصة نقص التمويل والبيروقراطية. ومع ذلك، فقد تغير الوضع مؤخرا. الآن المال يعطي المملكة العربية السعودية. تطويرها، واستخدام النتائج لنفسك. بالإضافة إلى الأموال، والشراكة مع هذا البلد يحل مشكلة أخرى - المكب. بعد تبادل لاطلاق النار عند الكيلو 300 ولا ندخل في أي الصحراء العربية موقع مناسب بروفاري من أوكرانيا.
http://olarh.at/missiles/
تاريخ المجمع الصاروخي متعدد الوظائف طويل ومحزن. هذه هي قصة نقص التمويل والبيروقراطية. ومع ذلك، فقد تغير الوضع مؤخرا. الآن المال يعطي المملكة العربية السعودية. تطويرها، واستخدام النتائج لنفسك. بالإضافة إلى الأموال، والشراكة مع هذا البلد يحل مشكلة أخرى - المكب. بعد تبادل لاطلاق النار عند الكيلو 300 ولا ندخل في أي الصحراء العربية موقع مناسب بروفاري من أوكرانيا.
مظهر النظام الصاروخي التكتيكي هو مبين في "التسلح والأمن 2015" المعرض. قاذفة اثنين من الحاويات.
هناك وضع تخطيط ومحرك يعمل بالوقود الصلب للصواريخ.
في يوليو أفيد أن هذه المحركات هي لا يقل عن 5 وحدات. وعلاوة على ذلك، ثلاثة منهم بالفعل على مصنع كيميائي Pavlograd إرسال، حيث تستعد لاختبارات. في أحد البرامج أظهر مصنع المثال №5 المحرك في النهر.
برنامج يتحدث عن بعض الاختبارات. لكن من غير الواضح ما إذا كانت التجربة الصاروخية، أو مجرد محرك. معظم محاكمة موقف احتمالا هو المحرك. لهذه الأغراض في Pavlograd إرسال بناء وتجهيز الحظيرة. كان حزب المؤتمر الشعبي وKB في Yuzhnoye حرب طويلة مع SSAU، التي لم تعط موافقة لهذه الاختبارات. فاز Dnipryany - زعيم وكالة الافراج عنهم. اختبار يعلن في الخريف.
تنتج هذه الألغام التجمع من أجل جمع الصواريخ.
وترد أيضا ظهور المتوقع للصواريخ.
لفهم حجم تقريبي، يمكنك إلقاء نظرة على هذه الشاشة مع المحرك. صاروخ خطير سوو.
وفيما يتعلق بخصائص المتوقع، ودعا باستمرار مجموعة انطباع 280 كم مع خيار لزيادة إلى 500 كم. الانطباع المنطقة - 000 10 متر مربع.
واحدة من المروجين للمشروع، Pavlograd إرسال مدير مصنع للمواد الكيميائية ليونيد Schiemann يفسر احتمالات أن تفتح نجاح الرعد:
إذا قلنا أن نتمكن من إنشاء مجمع المهام، في المستقبل، فإننا يمكن أن تخلق استراتيجية تكتيكية معقدة، والتي لا تحمل التهديد النووي. لكن مجموعة من 7-10000 كم. ترى كم واحد منا حول دائرة نصف قطرها 7-10 ألف كيلو متر من تكنولوجيا المواد الخطرة. على سبيل المثال، ومحطات الطاقة النووية ومحطات الطاقة الكهرومائية، المصانع الكيماوية، الترسانات العسكرية. إذا كان هناك ردا على تهديد للوصول 10-15 دقيقة "المنتج" الذي يدمر كل شيء، ثم، نسبيا، وانتفاخ محطة توليد الكهرباء في ياروسلافل. التالي هدم تسع محطات على نهر الفولغا إلى استراخان. الجزء الأوسط كله من روسيا قطع من الكهرباء إلى الغاز، من التنقيب، الخ لا سمح الله، وكان ليفعل ذلك، ولكن علينا أن تجبر نفسك على احترام وقائي.
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Це історія про недофінансування та бюрократію. Однак, нещодавно ситуація змінилася. Тепер гроші дає Саудівська Аравія. Розробляємо для них, а результатами скористаємося самі. Окрім коштів, партнерство з цією країною вирішує ще одну проблему – полігон. Все ж таки, щоб стрельнути на кілометрів 300 і не потрапити в якісь Бровари Аравійська пустеля зручніша локація, ніж Україна.
هذه هي قصة نقص التمويل والبيروقراطية. ومع ذلك، فقد تغير الوضع مؤخرا. الآن المال يعطي المملكة العربية السعودية. تطويرها، واستخدام النتائج لنفسك. بالإضافة إلى الأموال، والشراكة مع هذا البلد يحل مشكلة أخرى - المكب. بعد تبادل لاطلاق النار عند الكيلو 300 ولا ندخل في أي الصحراء العربية موقع مناسب بروفاري من أوكرانيا.
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تاريخ المجمع الصاروخي متعدد الوظائف طويل ومحزن. هذه هي قصة نقص التمويل والبيروقراطية. ومع ذلك، فقد تغير الوضع مؤخرا. الآن المال يعطي المملكة العربية السعودية. تطويرها، واستخدام النتائج لنفسك. بالإضافة إلى الأموال، والشراكة مع هذا البلد يحل مشكلة أخرى - المكب. بعد تبادل لاطلاق النار عند الكيلو 300 ولا ندخل في أي الصحراء العربية موقع مناسب بروفاري من أوكرانيا.
مظهر النظام الصاروخي التكتيكي هو مبين في "التسلح والأمن 2015" المعرض. قاذفة اثنين من الحاويات.
هناك وضع تخطيط ومحرك يعمل بالوقود الصلب للصواريخ.
في يوليو أفيد أن هذه المحركات هي لا يقل عن 5 وحدات. وعلاوة على ذلك، ثلاثة منهم بالفعل على مصنع كيميائي Pavlograd إرسال، حيث تستعد لاختبارات. في أحد البرامج أظهر مصنع المثال №5 المحرك في النهر.
برنامج يتحدث عن بعض الاختبارات. لكن من غير الواضح ما إذا كانت التجربة الصاروخية، أو مجرد محرك. معظم محاكمة موقف احتمالا هو المحرك. لهذه الأغراض في Pavlograd إرسال بناء وتجهيز الحظيرة. كان حزب المؤتمر الشعبي وKB في Yuzhnoye حرب طويلة مع SSAU، التي لم تعط موافقة لهذه الاختبارات. فاز Dnipryany - زعيم وكالة الافراج عنهم. اختبار يعلن في الخريف.
تنتج هذه الألغام التجمع من أجل جمع الصواريخ.
وترد أيضا ظهور المتوقع للصواريخ.
لفهم حجم تقريبي، يمكنك إلقاء نظرة على هذه الشاشة مع المحرك. صاروخ خطير سوو.
وفيما يتعلق بخصائص المتوقع، ودعا باستمرار مجموعة انطباع 280 كم مع خيار لزيادة إلى 500 كم. الانطباع المنطقة - 000 10 متر مربع.
واحدة من المروجين للمشروع، Pavlograd إرسال مدير مصنع للمواد الكيميائية ليونيد Schiemann يفسر احتمالات أن تفتح نجاح الرعد:
إذا قلنا أن نتمكن من إنشاء مجمع المهام، في المستقبل، فإننا يمكن أن تخلق استراتيجية تكتيكية معقدة، والتي لا تحمل التهديد النووي. لكن مجموعة من 7-10000 كم. ترى كم واحد منا حول دائرة نصف قطرها 7-10 ألف كيلو متر من تكنولوجيا المواد الخطرة. على سبيل المثال، ومحطات الطاقة النووية ومحطات الطاقة الكهرومائية، المصانع الكيماوية، الترسانات العسكرية. إذا كان هناك ردا على تهديد للوصول 10-15 دقيقة "المنتج" الذي يدمر كل شيء، ثم، نسبيا، وانتفاخ محطة توليد الكهرباء في ياروسلافل. التالي هدم تسع محطات على نهر الفولغا إلى استراخان. الجزء الأوسط كله من روسيا قطع من الكهرباء إلى الغاز، من التنقيب، الخ لا سمح الله، وكان ليفعل ذلك، ولكن علينا أن تجبر نفسك على احترام وقائي.
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هذا المشروع هو عبارة عن أنظمة صواريخ 300 ملم لاطلاق النار ابل. أوكرانيا يحتمل أن يشعر نقص في الذخيرة ل"اعصار" لأن هناك حاجة في بلدها. وكان 22 أبريل أول إطلاق النار العام الصواريخ الأوكرانية. استمرت رحلتها 30 ثانية.
