مصر تشتري صوايخ ستنجر و معدات تصويب لاباتشي

رد: مصر تشتري صوايخ ستنجر و معدات تصويب لاباتشي

بالنسبة للفارق شاسع بين السوبر كوبرا والفايبر

تسليحيا مثلا تملك الفايبر رادار اللونج بو وهو يمكنها من إستعمل كل أنواع الهيلفاير

وتملك حمولة أكبر

لذلك ستجد أن السوبر كوبرا التى كانت تحمل قديما الزونى والتاو تحمل حاليا التاو والمافريك وربما الهيلفاير

وبإختصار قادرة على حمل 8 هيلفاير موجهة بالليزر أو 8 تاو

مقابل الفايبر القادرة على حمل 16 صاروخ هيلفاير ويشمل ذلك الزودة بالباحث الراداى يعنى f&f

طبعا لانسى الفارق الشاسع فى التدريع بينهما وهو عنصر بقائية مهم لتلك المروحيات

والمحرك الأقوى الذى جعلها تملك سرعة قصوى كبيرة ومعدل تسلق هو الأعلى بين كل المروحيات الهجومية فى العالم

حتى المروحة الرئيسية رباعية الشفرات حسنت كثيرا من آدائها مقابل المروحة الثنائية للسوبر كوبرا

بإختصار وأستعير تشبيهك السوبر كوبرا ميج 21 أمريكانى ههههههههههه

لكن خد بالك

الأمريكان وضعوا الفايبر كمعيار تطويري يمكن ايصال السوبر كوبرا له
 
رد: مصر تشتري صوايخ ستنجر و معدات تصويب لاباتشي

بالنسبة للفارق شاسع بين السوبر كوبرا والفايبر

تسليحيا مثلا تملك الفايبر رادار اللونج بو وهو يمكنها من إستعمل كل أنواع الهيلفاير

وتملك حمولة أكبر

لذلك ستجد أن السوبر كوبرا التى كانت تحمل قديما الزونى والتاو تحمل حاليا التاو والمافريك وربما الهيلفاير

وبإختصار قادرة على حمل 8 هيلفاير موجهة بالليزر أو 8 تاو

مقابل الفايبر القادرة على حمل 16 صاروخ هيلفاير ويشمل ذلك الزودة بالباحث الراداى يعنى f&f

طبعا لانسى الفارق الشاسع فى التدريع بينهما وهو عنصر بقائية مهم لتلك المروحيات

والمحرك الأقوى الذى جعلها تملك سرعة قصوى كبيرة ومعدل تسلق هو الأعلى بين كل المروحيات الهجومية فى العالم

حتى المروحة الرئيسية رباعية الشفرات حسنت كثيرا من آدائها مقابل المروحة الثنائية للسوبر كوبرا

بإختصار وأستعير تشبيهك السوبر كوبرا ميج 21 أمريكانى ههههههههههه

زي ال F-16 بتاعتنا كده ..؟؟

ميج 21 امريكاني برضك

وده لسان حالها

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عاوز اعمل 240 لوجو منها بس بلاش يلا كفاية الرسالة وصلت
 
رد: مصر تشتري صوايخ ستنجر و معدات تصويب لاباتشي

لكن تقدر تبيد بيها سرية .......

شوف

هو البلاك هوك المسلح بالعربي كده ... عنب

زيها الكاموف

وبعدين اخرة صبرنا الاباتشي لونج بو بلوك 1 للأسف

على رأي القرموطي
لا البلاك هوك صيد سمين ولذيذ لكل من يحمل مان باد

وقدرتها على المناورة والتسلق ضعيفة معدل تسلقها ربع الفايبر وثلث الأباتشى :a086[1]:

يعنى بطة ولو ركز معها الشيلكا سيسقطها

انا عن نفسى لست مقتنع بها كمروحية نقل ولا مروحية قتال

لكن ربما كمروحية قوات خاصة مع قدرتها على التسلل فهذه ميزتها الأساسية

لو تواجهت الكاموف مع البلاك هوك فلافرصة للبلاك هوك

بالنسبة لقدرة المروحية على إبادة سرية

الامر بصراحة مستحيل فالمروحية لن تواجه خصم مستكين بل سيحارب بضراوة ففرصتها حتى فى تدمير 4 مركبات كما حدث فى حرب الخليج لا أظن انها ستتكرر
 
رد: مصر تشتري صوايخ ستنجر و معدات تصويب لاباتشي

لكن خد بالك

الأمريكان وضعوا الفايبر كمعيار تطويري يمكن ايصال السوبر كوبرا له
عمليا مستحيل

الطائرة أعيد تصميمها يعنى تم تغيير كل شىء تقريبا
 
رد: مصر تشتري صوايخ ستنجر و معدات تصويب لاباتشي

عمليا مستحيل

الطائرة أعيد تصميمها يعنى تم تغيير كل شىء تقريبا


Super Cobra upgrade programme
A major upgrade of the Bell Super Cobra known as the H-1 programme is underway. The programme calls for the remanufacture of the US Marine Corps fleet of 180 AH-1W Super Cobra and 100 UH-1N utility helicopters to an advanced four-bladed configuration, which will operate to beyond 2020. An upgraded cockpit configuration allows easy co-pilot access to the night targeting system (NTS). These are also remanufactured with "zero-time" airframes comprising advanced technology.
The original two-bladed semi-rigid, teetering rotor system has been replaced with a four-bladed, hingeless, bearingless rotor system. The improvement in flight characteristics provided by the four-bladed configuration has led to increases in flight envelope, maximum speed, vertical rate-of-climb, payload and rotor vibration level.
The USMC subsequently decided on new-build rather than remanufactured UH-1Y helicopters and, in February 2008, awarded Bell a contract for the new build of 40 of the proposed 189 AH-1Z helicopters. Four additional helicopters were ordered in September 2008.
First flight of the AH-1Z took place in December 2000. The AH-1W entered low-rate initial production (LRIP) in October 2003. Five AH-1W helicopters were remanufactured to AH-1Z standard and took part in flight testing at NAS Patuxent River, Maryland. Sea trials in May 2005 included the first shipboard landing on USS Bataan, Wasp Class amphibious assault ship.
Developmental testing was completed in February 2006 and two test aircraft began operational evaluation (OPEVAL) with the USMC in May 2006. The first production AH-1Z helicopter was delivered to the USMC in January 2007. Phase II of OPEVAL began in February 2008, and the OPEVAL was completed in October 2010. In November 2010, the AH-1Z was approved for the full-rate production. Initial operating capability of the AH-1Z Cobra took place in February 2011.
The Turkish Army selected the AH-1Z King Cobra in July 2000 with a request for 50 out of a total requirement for 145 helicopters. In May 2004, it was announced that the acquisition was to be cancelled. The helicopters were to be built in Turkey by Tusas Aerospace Industries (TAI).


ايه رأيك .....................؟
 
رد: مصر تشتري صوايخ ستنجر و معدات تصويب لاباتشي

لا البلاك هوك صيد سمين ولذيذ لكل من يحمل مان باد

وقدرتها على المناورة والتسلق ضعيفة معدل تسلقها ربع الفايبر وثلث الأباتشى :a086[1]:

يعنى بطة ولو ركز معها الشيلكا سيسقطها

انا عن نفسى لست مقتنع بها كمروحية نقل ولا مروحية قتال

لكن ربما كمروحية قوات خاصة مع قدرتها على التسلل فهذه ميزتها الأساسية

لو تواجهت الكاموف مع البلاك هوك فلافرصة للبلاك هوك

بالنسبة لقدرة المروحية على إبادة سرية

الامر بصراحة مستحيل فالمروحية لن تواجه خصم مستكين بل سيحارب بضراوة ففرصتها حتى فى تدمير 4 مركبات كما حدث فى حرب الخليج لا أظن انها ستتكرر

ماهو يعني مش هترمي الهيل من غير ماتمهد لها

يعني شغل ايه 10
 
رد: مصر تشتري صوايخ ستنجر و معدات تصويب لاباتشي

يعني ياحاج كاليجولا

ده MAJOR UPGRADE

Bell Helicopter rolled out its first production AH-1Z and UH-1Y helicopters September 27, 2006, at Amarillo plant, Texas. The US Marine Corps H-1 program calls for 280 upgraded attack helicopters and utility helicopters. As of early 2010, the number of AH-1Z helicopters to be procured by the USMC could exceed 226 from 180 aircraft envisaged previously. In October 2010, after completion of OPEVAL the number of AH-1Z to be delivered to the USMC by 2019 was 189 new and remanufactured aircraft.

بالمناسبة .. الأباتشي عندنا عند تطويها هي كانت تحت عملية REMANUFACTURING
 
رد: مصر تشتري صوايخ ستنجر و معدات تصويب لاباتشي

عموما لا أرى ان اسرائيل بحاجه للفايبر في القريب العاجل
 
رد: مصر تشتري صوايخ ستنجر و معدات تصويب لاباتشي

Super Cobra upgrade programme
A major upgrade of the Bell Super Cobra known as the H-1 programme is underway. The programme calls for the remanufacture of the US Marine Corps fleet of 180 AH-1W Super Cobra and 100 UH-1N utility helicopters to an advanced four-bladed configuration, which will operate to beyond 2020.

An upgraded cockpit configuration allows easy co-pilot access to the night targeting system (NTS). These are also remanufactured with "zero-time" airframes comprising advanced technology.
The original two-bladed semi-rigid, teetering rotor system has been replaced with a four-bladed, hingeless, bearingless rotor system. The improvement in flight characteristics provided by the four-bladed configuration has led to increases in flight envelope, maximum speed, vertical rate-of-climb, payload and rotor vibration level.
The USMC subsequently decided on new-build rather than remanufactured UH-1Y helicopters and, in February 2008, awarded Bell a contract for the new build of 40 of the proposed 189 AH-1Z helicopters. Four additional helicopters were ordered in September 2008.
First flight of the AH-1Z took place in December 2000. The AH-1W entered low-rate initial production (LRIP) in October 2003. Five AH-1W helicopters were remanufactured to AH-1Z standard and took part in flight testing at NAS Patuxent River, Maryland. Sea trials in May 2005 included the first shipboard landing on USS Bataan, Wasp Class amphibious assault ship.
Developmental testing was completed in February 2006 and two test aircraft began operational evaluation (OPEVAL) with the USMC in May 2006. The first production AH-1Z helicopter was delivered to the USMC in January 2007. Phase II of OPEVAL began in February 2008, and the OPEVAL was completed in October 2010. In November 2010, the AH-1Z was approved for the full-rate production. Initial operating capability of the AH-1Z Cobra took place in February 2011.
The Turkish Army selected the AH-1Z King Cobra in July 2000 with a request for 50 out of a total requirement for 145 helicopters. In May 2004, it was announced that the acquisition was to be cancelled. The helicopters were to be built in Turkey by Tusas Aerospace Industries (TAI).


ايه رأيك .....................؟

آسف لأنى تأخرت فى الرد

هذا كلام قديم أيام تسمية الكنج كوبرا ..


طبعا غريبة تلك الأسماء الأباتشى والكوبرا والكنج كوبرا والفايبر أسماء حيات

والهايند والكاموف تماسيح ...

نعود لموضوعنا


أنظر

he final 40 of 180 upgraded Bell AH-1Z attack helicopters for the US Marine Corps are to be built new rather than remanufactured as originally planned - a decision that could improve the design's export prospects. Under a $20 million contract, Bell will design and proof tooling to build new AH-1Z airframes beginning with Lot 7 procurement in fiscal year 2012. The company has already transitioned to building new UH-1Y utility helicopters under the USMC's H-1 upgrade programme.
Bell's contract also covers integration and qualification of the uprated General Electric T700-401C turboshaft in the new-build AH-1Z. The -401C is already installed in new-build UH-1Ys, while remanufactured AH-1Zs retain their original T700-401 engines. The helicopters also share dynamic systems and avionics.
The H-1 upgrade programme was originally based on remanufacturing AH-1Ws and UH-1Ns, but the USMC switched to new-build UH-1Ys after a handful of helicopters because of issues with airframe condition and downtime. The decision to build new AH-1Zs was prompted by concerns that the aircraft would be too worn-out to remanufacture cost-effectively given their heavy use during combat operations in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Bell says the AH-1Z and UH-1Y are not yet being actively promoted for export, but it expects the availability of new-build airframes to improve prospects on the international market.





http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/bell-ah-1z-upgrade-to-switch-to-new-airframes-221550/





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U.S. Marines Propose AH-1Z Production Boost


Oct 13, 2010



By Amy Butler [email protected]

WASHINGTON





AH1Z_USMC.jpg


















Following a successful operational evaluation, the U.S. Marine Corps plans to request approval for full-rate production of the new AH-1Z attack helicopter.
A Defense Acquisition Board meeting is set to review the project early in November, says Col. Harry Hewson, who manages the Huey and Cobra upgrade programs for Naval Air Systems Command.
The Navy declared the AH-1Z Viper operationally effective and suitable following the final evaluation. Lt. Gen. George Trautman, deputy Marine commandant for aviation, says testers earlier expressed some concern about the Zulu’s supportability, but that issue has since been resolved.
The service is buying 189 Zulus, 58 of which are newly built helicopters while the remainder are upgrades to the AH-1Ws now in the fleet. Bell Helicopter Textron is the prime contractor for both the UH-1Y Yankee and AH-1Z Zulu upgrade efforts. The Navy is buying 160 UH-1Y upgrades to the UH-1N armed utility helos. The total Huey/Cobra upgrade cost is $12.1 billion.
Navy officials had planned to buy 226 Zulus but decreased the number to account for restructuring within Marine light-attack helicopter squadrons. The Yankee has undergone two full deployments, and it has “reclaimed the utility mission” for the corps, says Col. Scott McGowan, Marine headquarters branch head for aviation plans, programs and budget. Previously, the squadron mix was to be 18 Zulus and nine Yankees per unit, but that was rebalanced earlier this year to 15 Zulus and 12 Yankees. “Cobra is optimized for precision weapons. Yankee will never do that as well,” McGowan says. “But when you add it all up across the full spectrum of combat operations . . . it looks like a better mix for us.”
To date, Bell is on contract to deliver 70 Yankees and 28 Zulus; 31 UH-1Ys and 11 AH-1Zs have been delivered, Hewson says. Two of each type were used for developmental testing and will be retained as test assets.
Despite two cost overruns, Hewson says Bell is now “meeting budget dead-on” for the upgrades, and the company is operating under firm, fixed-price contracts.
Reliability problems with parts on the Zulu cropped up earlier, but Hewson says most of those issues were related to software. An earlier attempt at a Zulu operational evaluation was botched in part because the Navy used developmental targeting sight systems, not production versions, due to budget constraints. The most recent operational evaluation included production versions of the Lockheed Martin AN/AAQ-30.
The Marines decided to prioritize fielding of the Yankees to reduce the number of AH-1Ws pulled out of service for upgrades and to work through these issues. The service continues to suffer a shortfall in attack helicopter capacity, McGowan says.
Full-rate production began on the Yankee last year and the first two newly manufactured AH-1Zs. Also last year, the Navy conducted a “full shakedown” before operational evaluation of the Zulu to ensure the problems were ironed out before the formal testing phase.
The Zulu has been cleared to use all Hellfire variants, 2.75-in. rockets, the 20-mm. gun and the AIM-9 series. It is a threshold platform for the Joint Air-to-Ground Missile, which is in competition and is expected to enter service in 2016. Testing recently wrapped up for use of the Advanced Precision Kill Weapon System on the AH-1W, and it will be integrated onto the Yankee by the end of 2011 in preparation for insertion onto the Zulu in 2012.
Photo: US Navy
Photo: US Marine Corp










http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gene...e=U.S. Marines Propose AH-1Z Production Boost


الخلاصة كله جديد وإسمه فايبر وإنسى تطوير القديم
 
رد: مصر تشتري صوايخ ستنجر و معدات تصويب لاباتشي

Super Cobra upgrade programme
A major upgrade of the Bell Super Cobra known as the H-1 programme is underway. The programme calls for the remanufacture of the US Marine Corps fleet of 180 AH-1W Super Cobra and 100 UH-1N utility helicopters to an advanced four-bladed configuration, which will operate to beyond 2020.

An upgraded cockpit configuration allows easy co-pilot access to the night targeting system (NTS). These are also remanufactured with "zero-time" airframes comprising advanced technology.
The original two-bladed semi-rigid, teetering rotor system has been replaced with a four-bladed, hingeless, bearingless rotor system. The improvement in flight characteristics provided by the four-bladed configuration has led to increases in flight envelope, maximum speed, vertical rate-of-climb, payload and rotor vibration level.
The USMC subsequently decided on new-build rather than remanufactured UH-1Y helicopters and, in February 2008, awarded Bell a contract for the new build of 40 of the proposed 189 AH-1Z helicopters. Four additional helicopters were ordered in September 2008.
First flight of the AH-1Z took place in December 2000. The AH-1W entered low-rate initial production (LRIP) in October 2003. Five AH-1W helicopters were remanufactured to AH-1Z standard and took part in flight testing at NAS Patuxent River, Maryland. Sea trials in May 2005 included the first shipboard landing on USS Bataan, Wasp Class amphibious assault ship.
Developmental testing was completed in February 2006 and two test aircraft began operational evaluation (OPEVAL) with the USMC in May 2006. The first production AH-1Z helicopter was delivered to the USMC in January 2007. Phase II of OPEVAL began in February 2008, and the OPEVAL was completed in October 2010. In November 2010, the AH-1Z was approved for the full-rate production. Initial operating capability of the AH-1Z Cobra took place in February 2011.
The Turkish Army selected the AH-1Z King Cobra in July 2000 with a request for 50 out of a total requirement for 145 helicopters. In May 2004, it was announced that the acquisition was to be cancelled. The helicopters were to be built in Turkey by Tusas Aerospace Industries (TAI).


ايه رأيك .....................؟
آسف لأنى تأخرت فى الرد

هذا كلام قديم أيام تسمية الكنج كوبرا ..


طبعا غريبة تلك الأسماء الأباتشى والكوبرا والكنج كوبرا والفايبر أسماء حيات

والهايند والكاموف تماسيح ...:a086[1]:

نعود لموضوعنا


أنظر

he final 40 of 180 upgraded Bell AH-1Z attack helicopters for the US Marine Corps are to be built new rather than remanufactured as originally planned - a decision that could improve the design's export prospects. Under a $20 million contract, Bell will design and proof tooling to build new AH-1Z airframes beginning with Lot 7 procurement in fiscal year 2012. The company has already transitioned to building new UH-1Y utility helicopters under the USMC's H-1 upgrade programme.
Bell's contract also covers integration and qualification of the uprated General Electric T700-401C turboshaft in the new-build AH-1Z. The -401C is already installed in new-build UH-1Ys, while remanufactured AH-1Zs retain their original T700-401 engines. The helicopters also share dynamic systems and avionics.
The H-1 upgrade programme was originally based on remanufacturing AH-1Ws and UH-1Ns, but the USMC switched to new-build UH-1Ys after a handful of helicopters because of issues with airframe condition and downtime. The decision to build new AH-1Zs was prompted by concerns that the aircraft would be too worn-out to remanufacture cost-effectively given their heavy use during combat operations in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Bell says the AH-1Z and UH-1Y are not yet being actively promoted for export, but it expects the availability of new-build airframes to improve prospects on the international market.





http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/bell-ah-1z-upgrade-to-switch-to-new-airframes-221550/





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U.S. Marines Propose AH-1Z Production Boost


Oct 13, 2010



By Amy Butler [email protected]

WASHINGTON





AH1Z_USMC.jpg


















Following a successful operational evaluation, the U.S. Marine Corps plans to request approval for full-rate production of the new AH-1Z attack helicopter.
A Defense Acquisition Board meeting is set to review the project early in November, says Col. Harry Hewson, who manages the Huey and Cobra upgrade programs for Naval Air Systems Command.
The Navy declared the AH-1Z Viper operationally effective and suitable following the final evaluation. Lt. Gen. George Trautman, deputy Marine commandant for aviation, says testers earlier expressed some concern about the Zulu’s supportability, but that issue has since been resolved.
The service is buying 189 Zulus, 58 of which are newly built helicopters while the remainder are upgrades to the AH-1Ws now in the fleet. Bell Helicopter Textron is the prime contractor for both the UH-1Y Yankee and AH-1Z Zulu upgrade efforts. The Navy is buying 160 UH-1Y upgrades to the UH-1N armed utility helos. The total Huey/Cobra upgrade cost is $12.1 billion.
Navy officials had planned to buy 226 Zulus but decreased the number to account for restructuring within Marine light-attack helicopter squadrons. The Yankee has undergone two full deployments, and it has “reclaimed the utility mission” for the corps, says Col. Scott McGowan, Marine headquarters branch head for aviation plans, programs and budget. Previously, the squadron mix was to be 18 Zulus and nine Yankees per unit, but that was rebalanced earlier this year to 15 Zulus and 12 Yankees. “Cobra is optimized for precision weapons. Yankee will never do that as well,” McGowan says. “But when you add it all up across the full spectrum of combat operations . . . it looks like a better mix for us.”
To date, Bell is on contract to deliver 70 Yankees and 28 Zulus; 31 UH-1Ys and 11 AH-1Zs have been delivered, Hewson says. Two of each type were used for developmental testing and will be retained as test assets.
Despite two cost overruns, Hewson says Bell is now “meeting budget dead-on” for the upgrades, and the company is operating under firm, fixed-price contracts.
Reliability problems with parts on the Zulu cropped up earlier, but Hewson says most of those issues were related to software. An earlier attempt at a Zulu operational evaluation was botched in part because the Navy used developmental targeting sight systems, not production versions, due to budget constraints. The most recent operational evaluation included production versions of the Lockheed Martin AN/AAQ-30.
The Marines decided to prioritize fielding of the Yankees to reduce the number of AH-1Ws pulled out of service for upgrades and to work through these issues. The service continues to suffer a shortfall in attack helicopter capacity, McGowan says.
Full-rate production began on the Yankee last year and the first two newly manufactured AH-1Zs. Also last year, the Navy conducted a “full shakedown” before operational evaluation of the Zulu to ensure the problems were ironed out before the formal testing phase.
The Zulu has been cleared to use all Hellfire variants, 2.75-in. rockets, the 20-mm. gun and the AIM-9 series. It is a threshold platform for the Joint Air-to-Ground Missile, which is in competition and is expected to enter service in 2016. Testing recently wrapped up for use of the Advanced Precision Kill Weapon System on the AH-1W, and it will be integrated onto the Yankee by the end of 2011 in preparation for insertion onto the Zulu in 2012.
Photo: US Navy
Photo: US Marine Corp










http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=defense&id=news/awx/2010/10/12/awx_10_12_2010_p0-261127.xml&headline=U.S.%20Marines%20Propose%20AH-1Z%20Production%20Boost


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