صاروخ H-4 bvr جو جو صناعه باكستانى خارج المدى المنظور 120km دخل في خدمه اليوم

[pakistani eagle]

اسلام اباد : القوات الجوية الباكستانية قد أدخلت حاء - 4 وراء المدى البصري الصاروخ الذي يمكن أن يضرب هدفا من مسافة 120 كم + بصريا من دون الاستشهاد به ، التهرب من رادارات العدو الشبح ehm ehm.

واضاف "انها خطوة نحو مضيفا أن وراء المدى البصري (BVR) لدينا ترسانة صواريخ لأغراض دفاعية ، ومعالجة الخلل الاستراتيجي في المنطقة ، واضاف ان" باكستان فجر نقلت الصحيفة عن مسؤولين قولهم ان القوات الجوية الباكستانية

"ثلاثة من التجارب الناجحة لحاء - 4 ، مع آخر أجري هذا العام ، وحقق نتائج مرضية تؤدي إلى إضافة للترسانة في الطائرات المقاتلة" ، واضافوا ان الصواريخ كانت نسخة معدلة من تي جنوب افريقيا القاذف BVR الصواريخ. القوات الجوية الباكستانية تزعم أنها - 2 حاء BVR الصواريخ التي يمكنها ضرب أهداف تصل إلى 60 كيلومترا.



وسيكون من تركيبها على أن القوات الجوية الباكستانية من طائرات ميراج حتى استحثاث جي - 17 طائرة جديدة الرعد ، وضعه بالاشتراك مع باكستان والصين ، في عام 2006.

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Air Force has inducted H-4 Beyond Visual Range missile which could strike a target from a distance of 120+ km without visually citing it, evading enemy radars ehm ehm STEALTH.

"It is a step towards adding the Beyond Visual Range (BVR) missiles to our arsenal for defensive purposes and to address the strategic imbalance in the region," Pakistan daily Dawn quoted PAF officials as saying

"Three successful tests of H-4, with the latest conducted this year, produced satisfactory results leading to addition of arsenal in the fighter jets," they said, adding the missiles were modified version of the South African T-Darter BVR missiles. The PAF claims to have H-2 BVR missiles which could hit targets up to 60 km.



It would be fitted on to the PAF's Mirage aircraft until the induction of new plane JF-17 Thunder, jointly developed by Pakistan and China, in 2006.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...e-inducts-BVR-missiles/articleshow/367308.cms

 

[abdo saleh999]

رد: صاروخ H-4 bvr جو جو صناعه باكستانى خارج المدى المنظور 120km دخل في خدمه اليوم

اول مرة اعرف ان
باكستان تنتج صواريخ جوجو

و لكن هل هذا الصاروخ قابل للعمل علي الاف 16

 

[pakistani eagle]

رد: صاروخ H-4 bvr جو جو صناعه باكستانى خارج المدى المنظور 120km دخل في خدمه اليوم

اول مرة اعرف ان
باكستان تنتج صواريخ جوجو

و لكن هل هذا الصاروخ قابل للعمل علي الاف 16

اكبر عدد امرام في عالم بعد امريكه عندنا 500 عدد amramm-c5
لطائرات اف-16 باكستانى. هذه صاروخ صنعت ال jf-17

 

[ilove_egypt]

رد: صاروخ H-4 bvr جو جو صناعه باكستانى خارج المدى المنظور 120km دخل في خدمه اليوم

اول مرة اعرف ان
باكستان تنتج صواريخ جوجو

و لكن هل هذا الصاروخ قابل للعمل علي الاف 16

اكبر عدد امرام في عالم بعد امريكه عندنا 500 عدد amramm-c5
لطائرات اف-16 باكستانى. هذه صاروخ صنعت ال jf-17

الأخ الكريم pakistani eagle ,

الأخ عبدة صالح يسألك هل باكستان تنتج صواريخ جو/جو بمدى 120 كيلو متر... بناء على موضوعك ؟

فأجبتة بالأمرام.!

وبناء على ذلك هل الصاروخ الذى ذكرتة أنت فى الموضوع h-4 هو صاروخ جو/جو - أم جو / أرض؟

أنتظر منك الاجابة على تساؤلة وتساؤلى .

تحياتى.

 

[pakistani eagle]

رد: صاروخ H-4 bvr جو جو صناعه باكستانى خارج المدى المنظور 120km دخل في خدمه اليوم

الأخ الكريم pakistani eagle ,

الأخ عبدة صالح يسألك هل باكستان تنتج صواريخ جو/جو بمدى 120 كيلو متر... بناء على موضوعك ؟

فأجبتة بالأمرام.!

وبناء على ذلك هل الصاروخ الذى ذكرتة أنت فى الموضوع h-4 هو صاروخ جو/جو - أم جو / أرض؟

أنتظر منك الاجابة على تساؤلة وتساؤلى .

تحياتى.

اسف يا اخي
ليست هناك اى معلومات كاستخدام صاروخ h-4 من اف ١٦

 

[pakistani eagle]

رد: صاروخ H-4 bvr جو جو صناعه باكستانى خارج المدى المنظور 120km دخل في خدمه اليوم

بانسبه جو ارض هو صاروخ h-2 باكستانى و رعد كروز

 

[khaled717]

رد: صاروخ H-4 bvr جو جو صناعه باكستانى خارج المدى المنظور 120km دخل في خدمه اليوم

شكرا اخي الكريم على هاذا الخبر الرائع
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الأخ الكريم pakistani eagle ,

الأخ عبدة صالح يسألك هل باكستان تنتج صواريخ جو/جو بمدى 120 كيلو متر... بناء على موضوعك ؟

فأجبتة بالأمرام.!

وبناء على ذلك هل الصاروخ الذى ذكرتة أنت فى الموضوع h-4 هو صاروخ جو/جو - أم جو / أرض؟

أنتظر منك الاجابة على تساؤلة وتساؤلى .

تحياتى.

الاخ الباكستاني قصد في ردة ان الامرام هو الصاروخ
المستخدم بطائرات الاف16 الباكستانية اما هاذا الصاروخ
فهو مخصص لطائرات الميراج والجي اف 17
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[النسر2000]

رد: صاروخ H-4 bvr جو جو صناعه باكستانى خارج المدى المنظور 120km دخل في خدمه اليوم

جميل جدا ان باكستان تصنع هذا الصاروخ للب احتياجات جيشها

 

[ilove_egypt]

رد: صاروخ H-4 bvr جو جو صناعه باكستانى خارج المدى المنظور 120km دخل في خدمه اليوم

اسف يا اخي
ليست هناك اى معلومات كاستخدام صاروخ h-4 من اف ١٦

look brother my question is too simple , about the function of the missile it self , not about launch platform.

is h-4 air to air missile (aam ) or air to surface missile (asm) in light of your topic and the previous photo?

thanks.

 

[pakistani eagle]

رد: صاروخ H-4 bvr جو جو صناعه باكستانى خارج المدى المنظور 120km دخل في خدمه اليوم

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-2_MUPSOW

 

[ilove_egypt]

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تلك هى الأجابة أخى التى أردت أن أسمعها منك , لكن كان ينبغى توضيحها فى الموضوع حتى يعلم الأعضاء

بطبيعة الصاروخ.

مبروك لباكستان , وتحياتى لك.

 

[pakistani eagle]

رد: صاروخ H-4 bvr جو جو صناعه باكستانى خارج المدى المنظور 120km دخل في خدمه اليوم

look brother my question is too simple , about the function of the missile it self , not about launch platform.

is h-4 air to air missile (aam ) or air to surface missile (asm) in light of your topic and the previous photo?

thanks.

thats good you can got better english

H-4 IS 100% BVR MISSILE AIR TO AIR
So i would say that H-2 is a BVRAAM with 60km range is basically a (T-Dater) which is an improved version of R-Dater with data link and some other improvements to meet PAF requirements. On the other hand H-4 is a 120km-range PGM Which could have been based on Raptor II /Torgos/MUPSOW ALCM.Kentron displayed details and a model of a new air-to-surface missile called Torgos in November 1999.This missile is described as an evolutionary development of the Improved MUPSOW.The turbojet engine gives Torgos a cruise speed of M 0.7 and a range of 300 km.So I would say that H-4 is either based on Raptor II or MUPSOW not on the Torgos as it falls in class of Raad because of its 300km range


South African BVRAAM with ramjet engine technology is called the Long Range Air-to-Air Missile (LRAAM) or S-Dater and was offered to PAF as joint development project as a long term solution to PAF requirements on the other hand T-Dater was offered as short to medium term solution. T-Dater was an improved version of R-Dater with data link and some other improvements to meet PAF requirements

There is no other explanation of purchase Grifo-M3 airborne multi-mode pulse-Doppler radars for the upgraded Mirage IIIEAs on the time when Pakistan had very good defense relations with South Africa. This also explains the fact that PAF tested but did not went on to purchase the Shenyang J-8 II / F-8 Finback which was capable of beyond visual range combat (BVR) with R-27 (AA-10) which could be obtained from Ukraine whose relations with Pakistan were very good at that time and Chinese PL-11 (PiLi-11) semi-active radar-homing medium-range air-to-air missile (MRAAM)[/B

MUPSOW is a multi-purpose, surgical-strike weapon, designed to neutralise enemy targets such as airfields, bunkers and command-and-control centres at stand-off ranges. Pinpoint accuracy is achieved by using advanced navigation and terminal-guidance technology. MultiPurpose StandOff Weapon (MUPSOW) design was first reported in 1993 and was being developed by Denel (Kentron Division). MUPSOW was 4.5 m long, had a launch weight of 850 kg and a range of 50 km. The missile had a warhead weight of 415 kg. It is reported that both TV and imaging IR seekers were planned. A series of captive carry and drop tests was reported in 1996, with an in-service date originally planned for 2000. An improved MUPSOW was proposed in 1995, with a length increased to 4.92 m, a launch weight of 1,200 kg and a range increased to 120 km. This version was similar in appearance to the German/Swedish Taurus KEPD-150 missile, with a turbojet engine. The improved MUPSOW would use INS/GPS guidance, with a choice of TV, IIR or MMW active radar seekers.

Raptor 2 is an upgrade of the Raptor 1 system, fitted with a rocket pod giving it greater range and manoeuvrability than the original glide bomb. Raptor 2 has range of 120km


Well! I took pictures. For your information.

I will disclose the name that Pakistan has given it. It is named "Crescent Arrow"

Pakistan has acquired several members of the Denel Darter family with TOT. These may include the "Raptors as well. They are not only being tweaked to Pak specification but inducted into PAF. They include both BVRAAM and PGMs. So go figure.

PAF does not want the full information out at this time but will disclose when appropriate. They agreed for this picture to be out but will not provide full details now beside its name.

"Pakistan's copy has been modified extensively. It is more agile, improved manoeuvrability, an superior seeker and far more lethal.

 

[Mr:sallamony]

رد: صاروخ H-4 bvr جو جو صناعه باكستانى خارج المدى المنظور 120km دخل في خدمه اليوم

ألف مبروك لباكستان وأتمنى أن تتعاون باكستان مع باقى الدول العربيه والأسلاميه ليستفيدوا من خبرتها فى الصناعات العسكريه

 

[pakistani eagle]

رد: صاروخ H-4 bvr جو جو صناعه باكستانى خارج المدى المنظور 120km دخل في خدمه اليوم

H-2

south African Raptor II glide bomb with rocket booster with a 120km range

صوره خياليه لتجربه h-2

 

[ilove_egypt]

رد: صاروخ H-4 bvr جو جو صناعه باكستانى خارج المدى المنظور 120km دخل في خدمه اليوم

thats good you can got better english

H-4 IS 100% BVR MISSILE AIR TO AIR

1. Missile was fired on its target from a Mirage (ROSE-I with Italy’s Grifo-M3 airborne multi-mode pulse-Doppler radars /some even said these were 2 South African "Cheetah" Fighters which were sold to PAF to ease the testing of BVRAAM) plane over the Arabian Sea. If Mirages pointed towards South Africa than one can only think of BVRAAM test over sea as there will be no point in testing the PGM over sea, so every thing pointed toward South African T-Darter BVR AAM missile.
2. BVRAAM also explains why PAF opted for the Grifo-M3 airborne multi-mode pulse-Doppler radars for Mirage-III Rose-1 which in case of PGMs makes little sense
3. H-2 is described to have a range of 60 Km and South African T-Darter BVR AAM missile too had a range of 60 kms and was offered to PAF with some TOT in BVR technology[/B]
   .
   [*]It was said that H-4 missiles which was an infra-red device and H-4 PGM (Raptor II /Torgos/MUPSOW ALCM)carries that for terminal guidance to achieve 3 meter CEP..
4. "It is a step towards adding the Beyond Visual Range (BVR) missiles to our arsenal for defensive purposes and to address the strategic imbalance in the region," Pakistan daily Dawn quoted PAF officials as saying.
5. Now this statement is extremely important as this is in quoting PAF officials and it doesn’t have a blend of super journalism by these ---- journalists.
   
   .
6. It clearly states Beyond Visual Range (BVR) missiles not Beyond Visual Range (BVR)
   
   Bombs as described by them. It further goes on to say that These are to address the strategic imbalance in the region, now we know that there is no strategic imbalance in PGM in IAF favor category as PAF already have and is continuing to improve its PGM advantage over IAF, so PAF official is referring to words BVRAAM advantage that IAF had at that time over the PAF. So while H-4 long range PGM increased the PAFs attack capabilities it is H-2 that address the strategic imbalance in the region
   
   so to me H-2 is a BVRAAM with 60km range is basically a (T-Dater)

So i would say that H-2 is a BVRAAM with 60km range is basically a (T-Dater) which is an improved version of R-Dater with data link and some other improvements to meet PAF requirements. On the other hand H-4 is a 120km-range PGM Which could have been based on Raptor II /Torgos/MUPSOW ALCM.Kentron displayed details and a model of a new air-to-surface missile called Torgos in November 1999.This missile is described as an evolutionary development of the Improved MUPSOW.The turbojet engine gives Torgos a cruise speed of M 0.7 and a range of 300 km.So I would say that H-4 is either based on Raptor II or MUPSOW not on the Torgos as it falls in class of Raad because of its 300km range


South African BVRAAM with ramjet engine technology is called the Long Range Air-to-Air Missile (LRAAM) or S-Dater and was offered to PAF as joint development project as a long term solution to PAF requirements on the other hand T-Dater was offered as short to medium term solution. T-Dater was an improved version of R-Dater with data link and some other improvements to meet PAF requirements

There is no other explanation of purchase Grifo-M3 airborne multi-mode pulse-Doppler radars for the upgraded Mirage IIIEAs on the time when Pakistan had very good defense relations with South Africa. This also explains the fact that PAF tested but did not went on to purchase the Shenyang J-8 II / F-8 Finback which was capable of beyond visual range combat (BVR) with R-27 (AA-10) which could be obtained from Ukraine whose relations with Pakistan were very good at that time and Chinese PL-11 (PiLi-11) semi-active radar-homing medium-range air-to-air missile (MRAAM)[/B

MUPSOW is a multi-purpose, surgical-strike weapon, designed to neutralise enemy targets such as airfields, bunkers and command-and-control centres at stand-off ranges. Pinpoint accuracy is achieved by using advanced navigation and terminal-guidance technology. MultiPurpose StandOff Weapon (MUPSOW) design was first reported in 1993 and was being developed by Denel (Kentron Division). MUPSOW was 4.5 m long, had a launch weight of 850 kg and a range of 50 km. The missile had a warhead weight of 415 kg. It is reported that both TV and imaging IR seekers were planned. A series of captive carry and drop tests was reported in 1996, with an in-service date originally planned for 2000. An improved MUPSOW was proposed in 1995, with a length increased to 4.92 m, a launch weight of 1,200 kg and a range increased to 120 km. This version was similar in appearance to the German/Swedish Taurus KEPD-150 missile, with a turbojet engine. The improved MUPSOW would use INS/GPS guidance, with a choice of TV, IIR or MMW active radar seekers. Raptor 2 is an upgrade of the Raptor 1 system, fitted with a rocket pod giving it greater range and manoeuvrability than the original glide bomb. Raptor 2 has range of 120km


Well! I took pictures. For your information.

I will disclose the name that Pakistan has given it. It is named "Crescent Arrow"

Pakistan has acquired several members of the Denel Darter family with TOT. These may include the "Raptors as well. They are not only being tweaked to Pak specification but inducted into PAF. They include both BVRAAM and PGMs. So go figure.

PAF does not want the full information out at this time but will disclose when appropriate. They agreed for this picture to be out but will not provide full details now beside its name.

"Pakistan's copy has been modified extensively. It is more agile, improved manoeuvrability, an superior seeker and far more lethal.

اذا, h-4 هو صاروخ جو أرض كصاروخ stand-off .

وحتى المقال الذى أحضرتة أنت يقول أنة precision - guided glide missile

أى صاروخ جو / سطح .

mupsow= h-4

وراجع الكلام المظلل بالأحمر ( من المقال الذى أحضرتة أنت ) لتعرف أنة صاروخ جو / سطح.

بخلاف موقع الويكبيديا ( الذى أحضرتة أنت أيضا ) يقول أنة صاروخ جو سطح .

فما هى المشكلة أذا أخى , هو بالفعل صاروخ جو سطح وليس صاروخ جو/جو.

وهو ما كنت أريدك أن تذكرة فى بداية الموضوع.

 

[pakistani eagle]

رد: صاروخ H-4 bvr جو جو صناعه باكستانى خارج المدى المنظور 120km دخل في خدمه اليوم

باكستان شارك برنامج صواريخ darter مع جنوب افريقه منز 2003 هذي برنامج مشترك.و h-4 h-2 نسخ باكستانى من برنامج نفسه

 

[pakistani eagle]

رد: صاروخ H-4 bvr جو جو صناعه باكستانى خارج المدى المنظور 120km دخل في خدمه اليوم

صوره من باكستان و مصدر الخبر واضع كل شي
كيف هذه جو ارض انا مستغرب

 

[ilove_egypt]

رد: صاروخ H-4 bvr جو جو صناعه باكستانى خارج المدى المنظور 120km دخل في خدمه اليوم

كما تحب أن تراة أخى . القرار لك فى تحديد وظيفتة , أن أردت ان تراة جو/جو فلك القرار .

وأن أردت أن تراة جو سطح فلك القرار أيضا أخى .

ولكن فى كل الأحوال أنا أراة كما تم صنعة ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, جو / سطح. وهو ما أردت أن أوضحة فى الموضوع.

وهو بالتأكيد أنجاز يحسب لباكستان . لكنى أحب فقط أن نكون دقيقين فى كتابة كل معلومة جديدة .

تحياتى.



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[pakistani eagle]

رد: صاروخ H-4 bvr جو جو صناعه باكستانى خارج المدى المنظور 120km دخل في خدمه اليوم

Pakistan tests air-to-air missile
From Our Correspondent
ISLAMABAD — Pakistan successfully test-fired an indigenously manufactured, air to air, anti-aircraft missile on Monday.
According to the credible sources, the missile, fired from a fighter jet, successfully targeted a flying object. This H-4 missile is made by a subsidiary organisation of NESCOM and it is the most advanced version of H missiles.
According to the sources the missile was fired on its target from a Mirage plane over the Arabian Sea. One of the salient feature of the H-4 missile is that it can hit even the out of sight target. The successful experiment of the air to air missile will go a long way in countering the enemy’s air supremacy.


http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-261.html

http://www.nation.com.pk/daily/april-2003/22/main/top10.asp

 

[pakistani eagle]

رد: صاروخ H-4 bvr جو جو صناعه باكستانى خارج المدى المنظور 120km دخل في خدمه اليوم

Pak Air Force inducts BVR missiles

Press Trust of India
Posted online: Thursday, December 18, 2003 at 1754 hours IST


[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Islamabad, December 18: Pakistan Air force has inducted H-4 Beyond Visual Range missile, which could strike a target from a distance of 120 km without visually citing it, evading enemy radars.

"It is a step towards adding the Beyond Visual Range (BVR) missiles to our arsenal for defensive purposes and to address the strategic imbalance in the region," Pakistan daily Dawn quoted PAF officials as saying.

The officials claimed that that the missile was developed by the National Engineering and Scientific Commission (NESCOM), which works in close collaboration with Pakistan missile organisation and the Air weapons complex. "Three successful tests of H-4, with the latest conducted this year, produced satisfactory results leading to addition of arsenal in the fighter jets," they said, adding the missiles were modified version of the South African T-Darter BVR missiles. The PAF claims to have H-2 BVR missiles, which could hit targets up to 60 km.

http://www.expressindia.com/news/fullstory.php?newsid=26943
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