قاعدة امريكية فى السعودية

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قاعدة امريكية للطائرات بدون طيار فى السعودية لمراقبة اليمن و الصومال



WASHINGTON - As Somalia undergoes its worst famine in six decades and Yemen slides into civil war, the administration of President Barack Obama is expanding its network of bases to carry out drone strikes against suspected terrorists in both countries, according to reports published in two major U.S. newspapers Thursday.
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The reports come amid considerable controversy about the increased use by the Obama administration of armed drones, ominously named Predators, and the longer-range Reapers, in its counterterrorism campaign. Based in part on newly disclosed U.S. diplomatic cables recently posted by Wikileaks, the Washington Post reported that the U.S. military has been flying armed drones over both countries from a base in Djibouti and is planning to build a second base in Ethiopia.
The Post and the Wall Street Journal also reported that a base in the Seychelles that the U.S. military has previously used to fly surveillance drones will now host armed drones capable of flying their lethal payloads the more than 1,500 kms that separate the Indian Ocean island chain from Somalia and the African mainland and back.
The "constellation" of drone bases will also include a secret new Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) base that the administration announced earlier this year would be situated somewhere on the Arabian Peninsula.
That facility will be hosted by Saudi Arabia, according to an unnamed "senior U.S. military official" quoted in a FoxNews.com report also published Thursday.
"Operations in Saudi (Arabia) are (the) only new expansion to this plan," the official was quoted as saying. "The rest has been working for over a year when we long ago realised danger from AQAP (Al-Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula)," a Yemen-based affiliate which, according to recent statements by U.S. intelligence officials, has been consolidating links with al Shabaab, the Somali group which Washington claims also has ties to Al-Qaeda.
IPS calls to the Pentagon press office for confirmation that Saudi Arabia is hosting the new base were not returned. But a former U.S. ambassador to Riyadh who has retained good ties with its government, Amb. Chas Freeman (ret.), said the report was "highly plausible" given both the "close and robust" cooperation on counterterrorism between the U.S. and the kingdom and its geographical proximity to Yemen.
According to one of the authors of the Post report, the expanding network is designed to "avoid the mistakes of the past".
"When al-Qaeda fled Afghanistan into Pakistan in 2001 and 2002, it took years before the CIA had assembled a drone program capable of putting the terrorist network under pressure," wrote Greg Miller on the Post's website. "That delay, and costly deals for air-basing access in neighboring countries, allowed al-Qaeda to flourish."
The reports come amid considerable controversy about the increased use by the Obama administration of armed drones, ominously named Predators, and the longer-range Reapers, in its counterterrorism campaign.
In Pakistan, where the CIA greatly sharply increased unilateral drone strikes - to nearly 200 - against "high-value" Al-Qaeda and Taliban targets in the first two years of the Obama administration, the tactic has contributed heavily to an increase in anti-Americanism. An overwhelming 97 percent of respondents in a recent Pew Research Center poll in Pakistan, where anti-Americanism is at an all-time high, said they viewed drone attacks negatively.
Indeed, none other than Obama's first top intelligence chief, Adm. Dennis Blair (ret.), told an elite gathering of foreign policy and national security wonks in July that it was a mistake "to have (an air-only) campaign dominate our overall relations" with Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia.
"Because we're alienating the countries concerned, because we're treating countries just as places where we go attack groups that threaten us, we are threatening the prospects of long-term reform," he said. Such strikes should only be carried out with the consent of the host government.
But Obama's new Pentagon chief and former CIA director Leon Panetta rejected that criticism, insisting that the tactic had been and would continue to be "effective at undermining Al-Qaeda and their ability to plan …attacks (against the U.S.)".
Panetta and the Pentagon have also reportedly led the charge in an ongoing debate within the administration to broaden the current target list in Yemen and Somalia from high-level leaders of AQAP and al-Shabaab, who are presumed to share Al-Qaeda's global aims, to include low-level foot soldiers, whose motivation for joining such groups may be more parochial and less ambitious.
The drone has increasingly become the administration's "weapon of choice" in its efforts to subdue Al-Qaeda and its affiliates, although it has been used far less frequently against targets in Yemen and Somalia than in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iraq.
At least six drone strikes targeted alleged militants in Yemen in 2010 and 2011, but that number may have risen recently due to the collapse amid the ongoing political turmoil of the central government's authority over various parts of the country. Militias which Washington believes are tied to AQAP have taken control of towns near the Gulf of Aden.
"There's an assumption that the U.S. has used a lot of aerial strikes in recent months, but it's difficult to get verification," said Gregory Johnson, a Yemen expert at Princeton University.
In Somalia, where Washington has also used cruise missiles and heliborne Special Operations Forces (SOF) against senior al Shabaab leaders, there are believed to have been only two drones strikes since 2007.
According to the Post and Journal accounts, Washington used a base in the Seychelles in 2009 and 2010 to fly drones for surveillance of both Somalia and Somali piracy activity in the Indian Ocean. According to the Wikileaks cables cited by the Post, Seychelles President James Michel has concurred with the idea of arming the drones.
Somalia's prime minister, Abdiweli Mohamed Ali, told the Journal that he did not object to armed drone attacks on members of Al Shabaab, provided that such operations were coordinated with his government, but that he opposed attacks on pirates.
The Post reported that the U.S. has negotiated with Ethiopia, with which Washington also cooperates closely on counterterrorism activities, for four years over building a base for armed drones on its territory. Fox News reported that the U.S. has flown surveillance drones from several Ethiopian bases.
"There could certainly be a lot of internal discussion before they would agree to authorise the use of a base (for armed drones)," said David Shinn, a former U.S. ambassador to Addis Ababa. "They don't want to be seen as a pawn of anyone."
Shinn, who teaches at George Washington University, said the use of armed drones should be highly constrained and warned against its becoming "the default policy for dealing with Somalia".
"I don't see a problem with using an aerial strike with a couple of huge caveats," he told IPS. "First, that you have intelligence which is 95 percent accurate or better on a high value target - which is a pretty tough standard - and, second, that there's little or no likelihood of collateral damage. If you're using these things willy- nilly on the basis of not very good intelligence, then it will be counter-productive."
Johnsen voiced similar caution, noting that "Washington has drifted into this tactic, because it can't seem to find any other good options in Yemen."
"But it runs the very real risk of actually exacerbating the situation," he noted. "The problem with drones is that the U.S. doesn't have a very good track record on killing who it's aiming at in Yemen. So it often ends up killing civilians, which drives their brothers, fathers, sons, nephews, etc. into the hands of Al-Qaeda and makes it easier for Al-Qaeda to argue that Yemen is an active theatre of Jihad, no different from Iraq or Afghanistan."
He also expressed concern about the CIA building a base in Saudi Arabia. "One of the primary motivations for Osama bin Laden's jihad against the U.S. were military bases housing U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia after the end of the Gulf War," he wrote on his blog, Waq al- Waq. "Does the U.S. think this current of thought no longer holds sway in Arabia?


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That facility will be hosted by Saudi Arabia, according to an unnamed "senior U.S. military official"
المنشأة ستكون فى السعودية طبقا لمصدر عسكرى رفيع المستوى لم تسمه


المصدر

و فوكس نيوز ايضا :dunno[1]:
 
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Expanding Network of Drone Bases to Hit Somalia, Yemen

ركز على كلمه Hit بمعني ضرب اليمن والصومال .. ليس مراقبه


اخي الكريم ,,

امريكا الان لها قاعدة في اليمن .. ماذا تريد من السعودية ؟

السعودية لن تساوم على دماء المسلمين

انتهي .
 
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شكرا لك بارك الله فيك

هذي موجوذه من فتره لكن ماحذذو موقوعها

اتوقع انها في خميس مشيط
 
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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الشعب يطالب بتفسير الكلام هذا :a082[1]:

لايحق للشعب ان يفكر ليقرر ليؤخذ برأيه

قبل ذلك العراق دخلت قوات من شمال المملكة والقواعد الجويه جعلت خمس نجوم للامريكان يهبط ويتزود بالوقود ويقلع ليضرب بغداد ويدخل الايراني فيه
بعد ذلك يبدأ مسلسل اللطم على الاطلال.
 
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غير صحيح ابدا
امريكا لها قاعده لهذه الطائرات في اليمن
وليس هناك حاجه للسعوديه

خوذو المعلومات من مصادرنا الرسميه
يعني الحرب الاعلاميه ماتمشي علينا .... مسؤل كبير لم يصرح بأسمه وكأن اسمه يهم اكبر من الخبر المذكور اعلاه ..!!
 
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شكرا لك بارك الله فيك

هذي موجوذه من فتره لكن ماحذذو موقوعها

اتوقع انها في خميس مشيط


جميل ياوطني واصلي والله معاكي وللتقدم بقيه

هل تملك مصدر على هذا الخبر المفرح
 
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لايحق للشعب ان يفكر ليقرر ليؤخذ برأيه

قبل ذلك العراق دخلت قوات من شمال المملكة والقواعد الجويه جعلت خمس نجوم للامريكان يهبط ويتزود بالوقود ويقلع ليضرب بغداد ويدخل الايراني فيه
بعد ذلك يبدأ مسلسل اللطم على الاطلال.


السعوديه لم تسمح باستخدام مجالها الجوي لضرب العراق فكيف تقول استخدام قواعد سعوديه لضرب العراق !!!!!

هل نسيت ان العلاقات السعوديه العراقيه كانت في افضل حالتها قبل الحرب الاخيره ام انك لاتعلم هذا ؟
 
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ملاحظة خارج السرب ......
امريكا لا تمتلك اي قاعدة جوية باليمن . يرجى تحري الدقة .
 
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الشعب يطالب بتفسير الكلام هذا :a082[1]:

هههههههههههههههههه

اعذروني كنت اكتب من البلاك بيري و الحروف فيها مشاكل

ولاتنسون حروف صغيره و ضعف نظر حرمت اكتب عن طريق البلاك بيري هههههههههههه

:biggrin:



بالنسبه للقاعده انا بحثت عن مواقع كثير تتكلم عنها ولكن انا مثلكم لا اعرف موقعها ولكن اتوقع انها في خميس مشيط لانها منطقة عسكريه رئيسيه
 
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اواكس لاتتوقع ترا توقعك بيجب لي جلطه
عندك مصدر قوي ضعه
 
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اشكر ناقل الخبر علي اجتهاده
تعليقي: المقال عبارة عن كلام اقرب للهراء منه الي الصحة
 
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اواكس لاتتوقع ترا توقعك بيجب لي جلطه
عندك مصدر قوي ضعه

الله يبعد عنا الامراض

انا ما اكدت بكلامي ولو اكدت كان وضعت لكم مصادر موثوقه لكن بعد التحري بالخبر وجدت هذا المصدر

 
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اذا كان الخبر صحيح فواسفاه على ارض الرساله
ولا اتوقع انه غير صحيح فسعوديه حليف راسي للامريكا وكذلك الحال البحرين
ودول اخرى
مصادر الرسميه ابد لن تعلن عن ذلك
 
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هذه الأخبار لاحداث بلبلة في السعودية

هناك مخطط لتقسيم العرب احذروا والدليل احداث العوامية واقباط مصر
 
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لايحق للشعب ان يفكر ليقرر ليؤخذ برأيه

قبل ذلك العراق دخلت قوات من شمال المملكة والقواعد الجويه جعلت خمس نجوم للامريكان يهبط ويتزود بالوقود ويقلع ليضرب بغداد ويدخل الايراني فيه
بعد ذلك يبدأ مسلسل اللطم على الاطلال.

للاسف كلام صحيح وفي صميم
 
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لآ أصـدق شخصيـاً هـذآ الخبـر ..

ولكـن كـل شـيء جـآئـز ..
 
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لا اعلم لماذا البعض يكون متشنج

كان فيه قاعدة امريكيه بالسعوديه و تم طردهم

انا من وجهة نظري ليس كل من قال انا مجاهد اصبح مجاهد

بعض الفئات الضاله تقول نحن مجاهدين و النهايه عملية تفجير بالسعوديه و تتبناها بكل بجاحه

لم يفجروا في اسرائيل لانهم جبناء

بل يستمتعون بقتل اخوانهم ,,

و انصدم بـ البعض من يأتي و يبرر افعالهم او يسنادهم

لكم بالعراق و اليمن و احداث السعوديه خير دليل

لو الامر بيدي لحرقتهم جميعاً

الجهاد من ثبت على دين الله و واجه عدوه وليس من يأتي بالخفاء و يخون ارضه
 
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