النواب الأمريكيين يطلبون بيانات تكلفة صناعة 194 مقاتلة F-22 إضافية

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US lawmakers want cost data for building 194 more F-22s


The US House Armed Services subcommittee on tactical air and land forces wants to know how much it would cost to resume production of the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor air superiority fighter

and it is even willing to consider export

options and foreign partnerships as an offset

"وأنه حتى على استعداد للنظر في خيارات التصدير والشراكات الأجنبية"


The US Air Force has spent the past year denying it has any interest in restarting production of the fifth-generation stealth aircraft, which entered combat for the first time in September 2014 against the Islamic State terrorist group in Syria and Iraq. However, the subcommittee’s markup of the fiscal year 2017 defence policy bill this week notes “interest” within the US Air Force, Defence Department and Congress about “potentially restarting production of the F-22 aircraft”.

A legislative directive proposed by the committee on 19 April notes that F-22 production was capped at 187 aircraft, which is “far short of the initial programme objective of 749 aircraft as well as Air Combat Command’s stated requirement of 381 aircraft”.

The proposed language directs the air force secretary to produce an unclassified report “by not later than 1 January 2017” on the cost of building another 194 aircraft. The report must consider variables to the unit cost, such as larger or small quantities and “opportunities for foreign export and partner nation involvement” if the 1998 prohibition on the export of the F-22 advanced tactical fighter to any foreign government could be repealed.

Japan and Australia had wanted to buy the F-22A when it was still in production, but instead, the programme was cancelled in 2009 in favour of pressing ahead with the F-35 Lightning II multirole righter. The 195th and final aircraft was delivered from Marietta, Georgia in May 2012.

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The legislative proposal comes as air force officials reconsider developing an expensive and time consuming “silver bullet” sixth-generation fighter jet to succeed the F-22 and F-35. Instead, it wants to develop a nearer-term “family of systems” to sustain America’s air dominance into the 2030s and beyond.

In February, an industry source said the air force had requested a "rough order of magnitude" cost estimates for resuming F-22 production, but the service denied it.

“The air force has no plan to restart F-22 production and therefore has not requested any formal cost estimates in the past year or at any other time since production shutdown,” the service said in a 19 February email. “The air force has no F-22 production restart cost data other than the very rough order of magnitude estimates outlined in the February 2011 RAND study: Retaining F-22A Tooling Options and Costs.”

According to the air force’s summary of the report, it would require approximately $2 billion to resume F-22 production, including $300-500 million in non-recurring start-up costs. Assuming a production run of 75 aircraft over five years, the estimated unit cost would be $233 million.

“The scale and cost of an F-22 production restart has been deemed too prohibitive to pursue,” the air force says.

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Roderick McLean, vice-president of Lockheed’s F-16/F-22 integrated fighter group, told Flightglobal at the company’s T-50A next-generation trainer unveiling in February that the air force has asked if would be possible to resume F-22 production. Lockheed’s counterproposal to solving the F-22 capacity issue is to upgrade early-model Block 20 Raptors, which are now used for training and exercises at Tyndall AFB in Florida and Nellis AFB, Nevada. Lockheed delivered 36 F-22 Block 20s and another 149 in the combat-coded Block 30/35 configuration, not including test articles.

“This [upgrade] will allow you to potentially deploy those Block 20 aircraft because they’d have a similar capability to the remaining fleet, effectively making them combat-coded aircraft versus today where they’re just training-coded aircraft,” says McLean. “We haven’t completed the cost estimates, but it is more affordable to modernise the Block 20s compared to restarting the F-22 line. We still have the tooling, but there’s always the effort of re-engaging the supply base and going through that initial development and testing of those first units.”

McLean confirmed that any new-build Raptor would leverage the latest developments in radar and communications technology brought about by the advent of the F-35.

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On the propulsion side, Pratt & Whitney has already engaged with its F119 supply base for the thrust-vectoring F119-100 supercruise engine, which propels the Raptor to Mach 2.

“The F-22 is being used a great deal, not only more than the air force had originally project but in harder manner,” P&W military engine chief Bennett Crosswell told Flightglobal in an interview on February 15. “We’ll do 32 overhauls of the F119 engine this year at our heavy maintenance centre at Tinker AFB [in Oklahoma] and next year we’ll double that – so 64 overhauls. The most F119 engines we ever delivered per year when we were in production was 57.”

He says most F119 suppliers haven’t built parts for the F-22 since it went out of production and it will require many cold-starts to boost the expected overhaul rate. Many of those same suppliers now build parts for the F135 engine, which is derived from the F119 turbofan, and are willing and able to resume F-22 parts production, Crosswell says.



 
فخر الصناعة الأمريكية، لا أعتقد سيتم تصدير الطائرة إلا ربما بعد 7 سنين في حال إلحاح من الحلفاء،،
 
اذا صح تفكير الأمريكان في تصديرها في المستقبل القريب ، فإن هذا يعني:
1 • أما أن الأمريكان علموا علم اليقين أن هناك منظومة دفاع جوي يتم العمل عليها ستصعب من مهمة الربتور (روسي او صيني)
2 •أو أنهم يستخدمونها لأقرب اقرب الحلفاء أمثال إسرائيل وبريطانيا واليابان لإخماد أي أمل لاسلحةالجو الصينية أوالعربيه أو الروسية لقلب موازين القوى ، وبالتأكيد ستكون نسخه مخفضة الشبحيه ، أو بطاقم صيانه امريكي
3•الاحتمال الأخير أنهم يضعون اللمسات النهائيه ، ومراحل الاختبار للجيل السادس ،،،،،،،
 
طائرة عتيقة ولو انها متفوقة ولكنها سوف تصبح خردة بعد اربعون عاما من الان وسيتمكن الحلفاء من اقنائها وستكون متاحة للتصدير بسعر مناسب
 
طائرة عتيقة ولو انها متفوقة ولكنها سوف تصبح خردة بعد اربعون عاما من الان وسيتمكن الحلفاء من اقنائها وستكون متاحة للتصدير بسعر مناسب


كلام خنفشاري صراحة :)

عتيقة ! يا رجل المقاتلة F-22 Raptor دخلت الخدمة في 2005 تقريباً.


باقي المشاركة مضحك جداً, بعد 40 عاماً !
 
اليابان, دولة إسرائيل, العربية السعودية هذه مرشحة بشكل قوي للحصول على مقاتلات F-22 Raptor.
 
كلام خنفشاري صراحة :)

عتيقة ! يا رجل المقاتلة F-22 Raptor دخلت الخدمة في 2005 تقريباً.


باقي المشاركة مضحك جداً, بعد 40 عاماً !

دخلت الخدمه عام 1997

وتظل اصعب واخطر الالات التي صنعها البشر
 
كلام خنفشاري صراحة :)

عتيقة ! يا رجل المقاتلة F-22 Raptor دخلت الخدمة في 2005 تقريباً.


باقي المشاركة مضحك جداً, بعد 40 عاماً !
نعم هي قديمة منذ حوالي عشرين سنة ..ذلك لا يعيبها.. الان الطائرة اذا تم رفع حظر تصديرها فالزبون المستهدف هو اسرائيل فقط لا غير وربما ان المقابل هو سماح اسرائيل لامريكا بتصدير الاف-35 لدول خليجية
غير كذا لن تسمح اسرائيل لامريكا بتصدير اف-35 للعرب اطلاقا والاف-22 هي الثمن الذي تريده اسرائيل للموافقة على تصدير الاف-35..اما اف-22 رابتور تخدم في قوة جوية عربية ممكن بعد 40 سنةان كانت القيامة لم تقم بعد
 
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