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يا سلام لما الكبير يخلص بس كل دول مش من الميسترال واحده فريم و واحده الكنترول بريدج للميستارل و التالتة اعتقد ميسترال قديمة او شارل ديجول لكن مفيش صور للميسترال من جوه@betteryneon
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يا سلام لما الكبير يخلص بس كل دول مش من الميسترال واحده فريم و واحده الكنترول بريدج للميستارل و التالتة اعتقد ميسترال قديمة او شارل ديجول لكن مفيش صور للميسترال من جوه
اكتشف ان السفينتين 40% معمولين في روسيا و اتنقلو لفرنسا للتجميع كما ان المعايير التجارية في تصنيع الاتنين كبيرة للاسف ، اتمنى يكون المفاوضين بتوعنا فصصوها كويس
عموما حعملكو موضوع عن سفينة التموين المنتظرة للاسطول المصري (dcns) طبعا و اعتقد بقسوة انها حتكون الخيار المصري ان شاء الله
الصورة ديه فيها 2 محجبات وضابط مصري معنى كده ايه ؟؟
الخلاصة جت في ديالسفن معمولة بمعايير احسن من الميسترال الفرنسي اصلاً لأنه الروس مطلبوش ميسترال صرف ... بل SubClass من الميسترال و سموه فلاديوفستك
حتى من ناحية القوة و المتانة
The Russian ships may include a number of changes, to the point of making them a variant class.
Vladivostok launch
The Russian ships may include a number of changes, to the point of making them a variant class.
The biggest change appears to be an air wing of 30 helicopters, instead of 16, but that could be a mirage. Russian Ka-27/29/31 naval helicopters have smaller footprints than the Mistral’s base NH90, owing to their design, while the Ka-52 attack helicopter is comparable. Some natural increase to about 18 on board is possible, therefore, but the Russian official who gave that figure spoke of combined ship and land-based elements, in order to ensure fast rotation of the helicopters for repairs, or replace combat losses. Russian equipment doesn’t have an outstanding reliability record, and training will require set-asides, so a wing of 30 to deploy 16-18 helicopters is plausible.
Other helicopter-related changes include raised hangars to accommodate taller Russian coaxial designs. Changing overall ship height would change the ship’s balance, but squeezing other decks would change capacity for other key items. It will be interesting to see how the Russian design decides to cope.
Structurally, weather is the first priority. Operations within Russia’s Pacific and Northern fleets will require some hull strengthening to guard against ice damage, which may squeeze internal space a bit more, and parts of the flight deck will need more power for de-icing. The well deck door will reportedly close completely, eliminating the Mistrals’ top opening. Finally, drawings show a modified bridge structure with less protected forward visibility, and more and larger radomes around the ship to accommodate Russian equipment.
For Russian sailors, however, some of the Vladivostok Class’ most important features may be more basic: hot water to shower in, comfortable bunking quarters, etc. Given the state, age, and design philosophy of most current Russian navy vessels, we wouldn’t be surprised if the Russian Vladivostoks soon earn an unofficial sailor’s nickname with the word “Dacha” in it.
الخلاصة جت في دي
we wouldn’t be surprised if the Russian Vladivostoks soon earn an unofficial sailor’s nickname with the word “Dacha” in it
شوف شغل المقاولين الروس الحراميةاللي فهمته انه داخا دي شبه الساحل عندنا كدة