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صراحة لو العرض الامريكي يشمل الadvanced super hornet بباكيج كامل غير منقوص مثلا اعتقد علينا التفكير فيه خصوصا اننا نتوسع بحريا

مفيش كلام علي ان ال F18 super hornet هي ربما افضل مقاتله بحريه في السوق العالمي
و advanced package زادتها قوه

http://www.boeing.com/defense/fa-18-super-hornet/

لاكن هل سيعطينا الامريكان تلك المقاتله????? No freakin way
و حتي لو وافقو: يعني احنا بنتكلم علي انها تخدم في القوات البحريه هانحتاج 20-24 مقاتله سعرهم لن يقل عن 3 مليار دولار بجانب التكاليف الاخري يعني سعر الصفقه يوصل 5Billion dollars و نستلمهم بعد ٥ سنين علي الاقل

امريكا لو ربنا كرمنا يرقولنا ال f16 الي F16V و كده شكرا
طيران تاني يقارب المستحيل
 
دا مش فلوكة دا باب خشب عايم .... حدور على هندي ASW ليه و انا مشغل فريم و 4 جويند ASW يدولوه بالجزمة و انا اصلا بشحت على اي حاجة AAW ;)

نخلص في الهورايزون انتا مش عاجبك

 
مفيش كلام علي ان ال F18 super hornet هي ربما افضل مقاتله بحريه في السوق العالمي
و advanced package زادتها قوه

http://www.boeing.com/defense/fa-18-super-hornet/

لاكن هل سيعطينا الامريكان تلك المقاتله????? No freakin way
و حتي لو وافقو: يعني احنا بنتكلم علي انها تخدم في القوات البحريه هانحتاج 20-24 مقاتله سعرهم لن يقل عن 3 مليار دولار بجانب التكاليف الاخري يعني سعر الصفقه يوصل 5Billion dollars و نستلمهم بعد ٥ سنين علي الاقل

امريكا لو ربنا كرمنا يرقولنا ال f16 الي F16V و كده شكرا
طيران تاني يقارب المستحيل
انا بفترض لو فقط
هي غالية و امريكي و كل حاجة لكن لو متاحة why not
خصوصا ان بحريا مفيش لدى الامريكان اي مرونة لدعمنا بحريا على مستوى قطع السطع ... فلو عايزين يظبطو العلاقات مفيش في ايديهم غير الهورنيت
 
نخلص في الهورايزون انتا مش عاجبك


مش فكرة مش عاجباني خالص
هي تتباع بس انا اقدر اقول لا ما هي شايلة فرنسا بحالها مع اختها فقط حاليا زي ايطاليا
 
انا بفترض لو فقط
هي غالية و امريكي و كل حاجة لكن لو متاحة why not
خصوصا ان بحريا مفيش لدى الامريكان اي مرونة لدعمنا بحريا على مستوى قطع السطع ... فلو عايزين يظبطو العلاقات مفيش في ايديهم غير الهورنيت

بالامانه احنا محتاجين ٤ حاجات الامريكان يحترمو نفسهم و يوافقو عليهم:
١- E-D or why not E-3 lolllllll او يسيبو السويد تدينا حاجه SAAB محترمه
٢ يرقو ال M1A1 الي A2sep
٣ ترقيه ال F16 الي F16V و Package كامل اسرائيل هاتاخد ال F35 و مفيش عندهم حجه
٤ مش عاوزين F15
just ال F18 super hornet او Advanced للبحريه package كامل
لو الامريكان عملو كدا يبقي شكراااااااااااا جداا
 
اعتقد ان هدف المقابلة سرعة تسيلم باقى صفقة الرافال
وفتح مجال للتكلم على زيادة اعداد الرافال غير وارد نظرا لسعرها
ياشباب احنا ناسين الاقتصاد لابد من تحسين احوال المصريين الاقتصادية فى اسراع وقت
 
بالامانه احنا محتاجين ٤ حاجات الامريكان يحترمو نفسهم و يوافقو عليهم:
١- E-D or why not E-3 lolllllll او يسيبو السويد تدينا حاجه SAAB محترمه
٢ يرقو ال M1A1 الي A2sep
٣ ترقيه ال F16 الي F16V و Package كامل اسرائيل هاتاخد ال F35 و مفيش عندهم حجه
٤ مش عاوزين F15
just ال F18 super hornet او Advanced للبحريه package كامل
لو الامريكان عملو كدا يبقي شكراااااااااااا جداا
نسيت اهم حاجة
C4isr
 
التعديل الأخير:
بالامانه احنا محتاجين ٤ حاجات الامريكان يحترمو نفسهم و يوافقو عليهم:
١- E-D or why not E-3 lolllllll او يسيبو السويد تدينا حاجه SAAB محترمه
٢ يرقو ال M1A1 الي A2sep
٣ ترقيه ال F16 الي F16V و Package كامل اسرائيل هاتاخد ال F35 و مفيش عندهم حجه
٤ مش عاوزين F15
just ال F18 super hornet او Advanced للبحريه package كامل
لو الامريكان عملو كدا يبقي شكراااااااااااا جداا
ال E-3 مش داخلة مصر اسهلك تدخل نووي :D ال e-2d ممكن جدا و عليها كلام من نورثورب لوحدهم ... الساب يا ريت
الابرامز دا مطلب must و اعتقد الدنيا فيه حتمشي سلسة بلا مشاكل
الفايبر و الهورنيت مينفعش ، حاجة من الاتنين قصاد الجوينت و السايلنت ايجل مع اسرائيل متنساش انك عندك رافال و ميج 35 عشان الصيانة و الدعم الفني و الجيل الخامس مستقبلا
 
ال E-3 مش داخلة مصر اسهلك تدخل نووي :D ال e-2d ممكن جدا و عليها كلام من نورثورب لوحدهم ... الساب يا ريت
الابرامز دا مطلب must و اعتقد الدنيا فيه حتمسي سلسة بلا مشاكل
الفايبر و الهورنيت مينفعي حاجة من الاتنين قصاد الجوينت و السايلن ايجل مع سرائيل متنساش انك عندك رافال و ميج 35 عشان الصيانة و الدعم الفني و الجيل الخامس مستقبلا

طبعا ال E3 مش جايه كنت بتريق
اما E-2D ربنا يسهل فيها
ال F16 لازم تترقا لل V احنا كدا كدا هانحتاج مقاتله بحريه لو نظريه الاخوه صح بتاعت الشكل الجديد للبحريه المصريه
الرافال او ال F18 يكونو خيار مناسب للبحريه لو قررنا دا
و طبعا الرافال الاقرب لاكن الامريكي ليه رونقه الخاص
 
ال E-3 مش داخلة مصر اسهلك تدخل نووي :D ال e-2d ممكن جدا و عليها كلام من نورثورب لوحدهم ... الساب يا ريت
الابرامز دا مطلب must و اعتقد الدنيا فيه حتمشي سلسة بلا مشاكل
الفايبر و الهورنيت مينفعش ، حاجة من الاتنين قصاد الجوينت و السايلنت ايجل مع اسرائيل متنساش انك عندك رافال و ميج 35 عشان الصيانة و الدعم الفني و الجيل الخامس مستقبلا
موضوع الهورنيت انا قلت راي ليست اهم منصة اخرج قصادها الاف١٦
الحاجة الوحيدة اللي تخليني اخرج الاف ١٦ هي الاف ١٥
عموما الميج٣٥ والرافال ممكن تغطي الحتة البحرية دي
 
الحاجة الوحيدة اللي تخليني اخرج الاف ١٦ هي الاف ١٥

No way,
احنا مش السعوديه يا معلم
ال f16 مستحيل تخرج حتي لو جبنا ال f35 النهارده
طياره محترمه تكاليف تشغيل يا بلاش و لعبنا فيها لما حفظناها
 
No way,
احنا مش السعوديه يا معلم
ال f16 مستحيل تخرج حتي لو جبنا ال f35 النهارده
طياره محترمه تكاليف تشغيل يا بلاش و لعبنا فيها لما حفظناها
ما انا فاهم انا بتكلم علي فكرة التخلي عن الاف١٦ من اجل الهورنيت
فقلت الاف١٦ تطلع يبقي البديل الوحيد اف ١٥
عموما هي كدة كدة هتطلع مقابل الجيل الخامس
بس علي مراحل تبدأ ٢٠٢٥
متنساش ان فية منها قارب علي ٤٠ عام
 
انا فاهم لاكن معنديش معلومات كافيه عن النقطه دي
دة عن c4i
DOD Definitions of Terms: Command, Control, Communications, Computers, and Intelligence (C4I)

Command and control (C2) The exercise of authority and direction by a properly designated commander over assigned and attached forces in the accomplishment of the mission. Command and control functions are performed through an arrangement of personnel, equipment, communications, facilities, and procedures employed by a commander in planning, directing, coordinating, and controlling forces and operations in the accomplishment of the mission.

Command The authority that a commander in the Armed Forces lawfully exercises over subordinates by
virtue of rank or assignment. Command includes the authority and responsibility for effectively using available
resources and for planning the employment of, organizing, directing, coordinating, and controlling military forces for the accomplishment of assigned missions.

Computing and communications Two pervasive enabling technologies that support C2 and intelligence,
surveillance, and reconnaissance. Computers and communications process and transport information.

Control Authority which may be less than full command exercised by a commander over part of the
activities of subordinate or other organizations. Physical or psychological pressures exerted with the intent to
assure that an agent or group will respond as directed.

Intelligence (I) The product resulting from the collection, processing, integration, analysis, evaluation, and
interpretation of available information concerning foreign countries or areas. Information and knowledge about an adversary obtained through observation, investigation, analysis, or understanding.

SOURCES: Joint Chiefs of Staff, Department of Defense Dictionary of Military and Associated Terms, as amended through December 7, 1998
(Joint Publication 1-02).


Command and control is about decision making, the exercise of direction by a properly designated commander over assigned and attached forces in the accomplishment of a mission, and is supported by information technology (the computers and communications part of C4I). The United States is aggressively exploiting these technologies in order to achieve information superiority, with the objective of achieving better and faster decisions, and continually projecting, albeit with uncertainties, future desired states and directing actions to bring about those future states.

One important capability that C4I systems provide commanders is situational awareness--information about the location and status of enemy and friendly forces. A necessary component of achieving superiority in decision making, it does not alone guarantee superior decision making. Commanders must take relevant knowledge and combine it with their judgment--including difficult-to-quantify aspects of human behavior (such as fatigue, experience level, and stress), the uncertainty of data, and the plausible future states resulting from actions by both their own force and the enemy--to make decisions about future actions and how to convey those decisions in ways to facilitate their proper execution. In doing so, commanders are supported by tools to enable and accelerate the planning and decision-making process, to achieve the decision-making superiority envisioned by DOD. And, of course, to be effective, command decisions must be implemented, a process to which C4I technologies are also relevant (e.g., in speeding up the link through which targeting information is passed to weapons, the so-called sensor-to-shooter link). The development and use of the right tools allow the commander to focus better on those issues associated with the essence of command--the art versus the science. As more and better-automated tools are developed and people are trained to use them, it will become even more important to recognize the art of command as distinguished from the mechanics of the tools used to provide information.
 
ما انا فاهم انا بتكلم علي فكرة التخلي عن الاف١٦ من اجل الهورنيت
فقلت الاف١٦ تطلع يبقي البديل الوحيد اف ١٥
عموما هي كدة كدة هتطلع مقابل الجيل الخامس
بس علي مراحل تبدأ ٢٠٢٥
متنساش ان فية منها قارب علي ٤٠ عام

و الله عيب اللي انتا بتقولو دا
لسه ما جبتشي ٣٥ تقوللي ٤٠ سنه يعني لسه عروسه in her prime
Milf يعني :D

و بعدين ٤٠ سنه مع قواتنا الجويه لسه في عزها
عندك الميج ٢١ لسه بصحتها و بتدينا فيها :D بتدينا حمايه اقصد lol
 
دة عن c4i
DOD Definitions of Terms: Command, Control, Communications, Computers, and Intelligence (C4I)

Command and control (C2) The exercise of authority and direction by a properly designated commander over assigned and attached forces in the accomplishment of the mission. Command and control functions are performed through an arrangement of personnel, equipment, communications, facilities, and procedures employed by a commander in planning, directing, coordinating, and controlling forces and operations in the accomplishment of the mission.

Command The authority that a commander in the Armed Forces lawfully exercises over subordinates by
virtue of rank or assignment. Command includes the authority and responsibility for effectively using available
resources and for planning the employment of, organizing, directing, coordinating, and controlling military forces for the accomplishment of assigned missions.

Computing and communications Two pervasive enabling technologies that support C2 and intelligence,
surveillance, and reconnaissance. Computers and communications process and transport information.

Control Authority which may be less than full command exercised by a commander over part of the
activities of subordinate or other organizations. Physical or psychological pressures exerted with the intent to
assure that an agent or group will respond as directed.

Intelligence (I) The product resulting from the collection, processing, integration, analysis, evaluation, and
interpretation of available information concerning foreign countries or areas. Information and knowledge about an adversary obtained through observation, investigation, analysis, or understanding.

SOURCES: Joint Chiefs of Staff, Department of Defense Dictionary of Military and Associated Terms, as amended through December 7, 1998
(Joint Publication 1-02).


Command and control is about decision making, the exercise of direction by a properly designated commander over assigned and attached forces in the accomplishment of a mission, and is supported by information technology (the computers and communications part of C4I). The United States is aggressively exploiting these technologies in order to achieve information superiority, with the objective of achieving better and faster decisions, and continually projecting, albeit with uncertainties, future desired states and directing actions to bring about those future states.

One important capability that C4I systems provide commanders is situational awareness--information about the location and status of enemy and friendly forces. A necessary component of achieving superiority in decision making, it does not alone guarantee superior decision making. Commanders must take relevant knowledge and combine it with their judgment--including difficult-to-quantify aspects of human behavior (such as fatigue, experience level, and stress), the uncertainty of data, and the plausible future states resulting from actions by both their own force and the enemy--to make decisions about future actions and how to convey those decisions in ways to facilitate their proper execution. In doing so, commanders are supported by tools to enable and accelerate the planning and decision-making process, to achieve the decision-making superiority envisioned by DOD. And, of course, to be effective, command decisions must be implemented, a process to which C4I technologies are also relevant (e.g., in speeding up the link through which targeting information is passed to weapons, the so-called sensor-to-shooter link). The development and use of the right tools allow the commander to focus better on those issues associated with the essence of command--the art versus the science. As more and better-automated tools are developed and people are trained to use them, it will become even more important to recognize the art of command as distinguished from the mechanics of the tools used to provide information.


thanks brother
 
دي مقالة بقي عن c4isr
The U.S. Coast Guard’s command, control, communications, computers, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance systems acquisition program is a multi-year effort to design, develop and integrate the equipment used on the Coast Guard’s newest assets, including the national security cutter, offshore patrol cutter, long range surveillance aircraft (HC-130J) and the medium range surveillance aircraft (HC-144A, C-27J). The program acquires and integrates electronic sensors, networking, data processing and information-sharing equipment, which help Coast Guard operators develop effective situational awareness and interoperate with partner agencies.

Additionally, the C4ISR program enhances the command, control and communication capabilities of in-service cutters, boats and aircraft. As the service transitions from aging command and control networks to a new standard, called Seawatch, this effort will help to link the Coast Guard’s older assets with its newest.

Once completed, the C4ISR program will bring online the Coast Guard’s most capable communications and technology infrastructure and integrate the largest recapitalization effort in the service’s history.

Why this program?

To be effective and proactive against threats to the nation’s maritime environment, the Coast Guard must have an accurate and timely picture of the maritime domain at all times. C4ISR systems produce actionable information, improve situational awareness and enhance efficient collaboration among Coast Guard operators and those of partner agencies; simply put, C4ISR provides the eyes and ears of any operation, helping staff to efficiently apply resources, prioritize missions, and, at the tactical level, automate various watch-stander tasks. At the strategic and national levels, these information products enable more effective and efficient mission execution, improving both maritime domain awareness and maritime homeland security outcomes.

How is the program implemented?

The Coast Guard’s C4ISR acquisition strategy features a segmented approach to delivering products. Each subsequent segment builds upon the previous to avoid technology obsolescence and bring new capability to the fleet at a faster rate. In the process, the project is helping the Coast Guard to establish a new C4ISR capabilities baseline, including the authority to pass data on the Department of Defense classified networks, as well as laying the foundation for greater interoperability among Coast Guard and partner agencies by adopting an open architecture paradigm for future C4ISR equipment. This paradigm will help the Coast Guard to minimize life-cycle costs and keep pace with technology obsolescence by acquiring state-of-the market, plug-and-play C4ISR tools and capabilities.

Status

At the same time that new equipment is procured for new assets like the NSC, the C4ISR project is improving the capabilities of in-service cutters, which must continue to use and maintain existing command, control and communications systems. The project has installed commercial satellite communications, Automatic Identification System and, aboard the 378-foot and 270-foot cutters, the Seawatch C2 system.

Features
•For NSCs, networked communications, radio direction finding and other capabilities to integrate with Navy battle groups and the broader U.S. government intelligence community
•For NSCs, HC-144As and HC-130Js, an advanced C4ISR suite that includes a common baseline across assets and transitions to an open architecture system of Coast Guard-controlled components with government software data rights
•The OPC’s C4ISR suite will be derived from the baseline used for NSC and other new platforms
•For in-service cutters, installation of commercial satellite communications and AIS
•For 378-foot and 270-foot cutters, Seawatch C2 system
 
اعتقد القاء ده رد عملي على زياره لرئيسة مجلس إدارة والمديرة التنفيذية لشركة لوكهيد مارتن الأمريكية و لقائها مع السيسي (في تعنت في الموقف الامريكي و مصر مستمره في سياستها)
 
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