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اتمنى ان نرى تلك الطائره بالسماء قبل عام 2500 ................
فالكلام كثير , ولكن الواقع شئ اخر .
النسرالمصرى(المجموعه73)
ما رأيكم فى هذا الخبر والذى يقول أن الصين عرضت على مصر الطائرة J-10 (لا أدرى للشراء أم للتصنيع) ؟؟ والخبر يقول أن مصدر عسكرى صينى هو الذى صرح بهذا :
China pushes J-10A fighter for export to Pakistan,Egypt
By ANDREI CHANG and JOHN WU
Published: May 19, 2009 at 11:59 AM
HONG KONG, May 19 (UPI) -- One member of the Russian military delegation to last November's Zhuhai Air Show described the Chinese-Russian arms trade as being in a long and drawn-out winter.
A representative of Rosoboronexport, the agency that handles exports of Russian defense equipment, declined to comment on China's possible export of J-10A fighters equipped with Russian AL-31F engines.
China did have its own indigenous engine on display at the show, the Taihang turbofan engine, with a thrust power of 13,200 kilograms, or 29,101 pounds. However, some experts say it is only 12,800 kilograms -- 28,219 pounds. The Taihang's exterior design and modular structure, as well as the processing and polishing technologies of the core machine and engine blades, seem to be an improvement over China's previous aviation engines, but it is still far behind similar systems from Russia and Western countries.
Representatives of China's Liming Motor Corp. refused to answer questions about the engine's performance features. It is unclear why China decided to introduce this engine to the international market when it has not elected to use it on its own J-10 fighters.
A Chinese military source said China has been promoting the J-10A to Egypt, but it appears that no substantial negotiations have yet taken place. An authoritative source from the Russian military industry has said that Russia will not allow China to use its engines in exported planes if it perceives such sales as having a negative impact on Russia's own export market. Egypt was once a major client of Russian arms, though it now buys little other than spare parts.
Pakistan, on the other hand, is not a traditional client of Russian aircraft. Therefore, Russia allowed its engines to be used on the JF-17 fighters China is developing with Pakistan. The same arrangement may therefore hold for the J-10A.
The basic price for the J-10A is about $29.3 million, according to the Chinese source. Considering that China aims to sell this fighter primarily to oil-producing countries -- and is prepared to trade it for oil and other natural resources -- it could be an attractive option for such countries.
A general assessment of the export version of the J-10A fighter can conclude that its engine has less thrust than the F-16 Block 52, while its radar system is more or less on par with the Zhuk-ME multifunction radar on the Russian MiG-28 SMT. This is because Russia's Phazotron Design Bureau exported to China three sets of its Zemchug multi-role radar systems after 2001, allowing China to come up with its own version of the Zhuk-ME radar. This radar has a detection range of 120 kilometers, or 75 miles, for 5-square-meter aerial targets and can attack four targets in the air simultaneously.
In terms of the diversity and performance of its weapon systems, especially long-range attack weapons, the J-10A lags far behind the F-16 Block 52. The air-to-air missiles loaded on the J-10A fighter at the Zhuhai exhibition were SD-10A AAMs with compound hard points. The SD-10A is a medium-range active radar-guided air-to-air missile upgraded from the SD-10, with its maximum range extended to 70 kilometers, or 43 miles. Its length is 3.9 meters, around 13 feet; diameter, 203 millimeters, around 8 inches; weight, 198 kilograms, just under 440 pounds, and maximum speed Mach 5, 3,800 miles per hour at sea level.
The PL-12 air-to-air missiles currently in service in the People's Liberation Army Air Force have undergone similar upgrading. Short-range missiles include the new-generation PL-5EII and PL-9C. The PL-5EII is equipped with a multichannel infrared seeker, the latest laser proximity fuse and a rocket motor with a non-smoke propellant.
The air-to-ground weapons on the J-10A mainly include the LT-2 laser-guided bomb and the FT series of Global Positioning System-guided bombs. In recent years, China has been imitating U.S. aviation combat weapons, a trend that is reflected in the weapon platforms on the J-10A, including its imitation U.S. joint direct attack munition serial bombs.
الكلام الوحيد المتاح الان على الطاولة بين مصر والصين هى j-10 b فى مشروع طويل المدى حاجة كدة زى peace vector تبدا بصفقة شراء محدودة ثم تصنيع فى صفقات اخرىالسلام عليكم لم يحدد نوع الطائره بعد فهناك أقوال كثيره جداً عن الطائره المنشوده
الآراء كلها كانت تشير إلى الـ fc-1 بنسبة 90 % لكن بعد هذا الخبر إنقلبت الآيه إلى j-10 فالصين عرضتها على مصر وهذا مصدر لذلك وهو للأخ وليد ( الإيمان ) من منتدى آخر
مشاركه كامله للأخ الإيمان
وهناك تكهنات عن الميج 29 ويعتبر الأمر مبهم تماماً حالياً لكن المأكد تماماً عقد مصر العزم على صنع طائره مقاتله
وبالطبع ستكون اقل في الإمكانيات القتاليه عن باقي الطائرات الأوروبيه .
لكن على النقيض ستجهز بأحدث المعدات والأجهزه والذخيره بما هو أحدث وأقوى مما هو على الأف 16 المتعاقد علها مع أمريكا
مما يجعل الطائره مكافئه تماماً للأف 16 المتواجده اساساً في مصر .
دعنا نتفائل لمره واحده فقط ربنا يعمي عيون امريكا عننا لانها لن تسمح لنا ببناء طائره ورق بعيدا عنها وعن سياستها