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#埃及航展# 这次接触了那么多不同的外军，印象最深的是俩埃及人。那天我看到两个EAF军官在J-10C前面流连忘返，围着一直看了又看，现场又没有解说员，正好他们看到我的胸牌上写着CHINA就把我喊过去。
其中一个年纪很大的级别相当高，听完我的介绍对飞机很满意，而且告诉我：几十年前他还是小伙子的时候，就是飞J-6的埃及飞行员。他还遇到过严重的飞行事故，当时他的J-6单发空中停车，两侧的推力差异导致飞机进入尾旋，不论怎么努力都无法改出，最终只能弹射跳伞。
听他这么说我顿时有点尴尬，赶忙解释如今中国的航空装备已经远比当年先进
![[汗]](/vb/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fh5.sinaimg.cn%2Fm%2Femoticon%2Ficon%2Fdefault%2Fd_han-d8ebda66d3.png&hash=2cfd76379fcc8e27c4851836779aaf77 "[汗]")
然后又问我“这架飞机上安装的还是俄罗斯发动机吗？”我承认是的，但补充道“安装国产发动机的数量也已经很多了，可靠性是有保障的”。
和民间市场一样，埃及军方的许多老人对于当年中国产品的质量还是有些负面印象，至今仍有阴影和顾虑。但同时他们仍然对美俄之外的新选择抱有厚望，飞过J-6的老将如今又有机会接触中国新战机，肉眼可见的进步还是让他很感慨的。
陪同他参观的是一名中年飞行员，对当前各种先进装备的发展还是基本掌握的，讲什么特点都能很快理解，并且给他的领导作进一步解读。他说自己之前是飞F-16的，美国给埃及的F-16虽然数量很多，但不论新老批次配置都非常差。为了确保埃及空军不对以色列构成威胁，美国至今也不批准向埃及提供AIM-120，连AIM-7都很少。绝大部分埃及F-16在实战中只能靠AIM-9去贴脸格斗，对地武器也非常有限，GBU-12都当宝，Mk82铁炸弹才是主力。这样的情况下，埃及大批采购MiG-29M/M2的选择就非常合理了，这些能打R-77和各种精确制导武器的飞机在埃及空军眼里可比F-16中用多了。
我问他既然你是F-16飞行员，为什么你不像其他人一样穿飞行服来呢？这老哥表情扭曲的笑了笑：“前几年我被选为首批改装Su-35的飞行员之一，等我从俄罗斯训练完回来，接下来发生了什么你也知道了……而在这期间我的F-16资质也没继续保留，所以现在我是没有飞机的Su-35飞行员”，此话一出让我对他立马深表同情
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绝对是我遇到的最可怜的埃及飞行员。
一起痛骂美国人之后，我给他说，如果真的有缘分，那你们将至少得到AESA+SD10的组合，足够你们保卫埃及了。讲到AESA，老头领导还过来插嘴“看起来你们的雷达比阵风的要大一些吧”，我立马抓住机会“您的洞察力非常敏锐，更大的天线直径可以容纳更多收发元件，具有更好的探测能力”。光杆Su-35飞行员还在风挡前面发现了他熟悉的IRST，我告诉他“虽然这个看着相似，但是和俄罗斯的版本已经不一样了，我们这种IRST更灵敏，看得更远……”。
看着这两个埃及人交头接耳，很明显能感受到飞行员眼睛都亮了，看J-10C是那种男人看跑车的眼神，看领导的眼神又像个哀求父亲给自己买心爱玩具的孩子，可以说喜爱之情绝对是溢于言表了。
最后两位拉着我在J-10C前面合影握手，然后径直走向停机坪尽头，和其他要员一起登上了等候多时的埃及空军A340专机，呼啸着离开了航展现场飞回开罗。
#Egypt Air Show# This time I met so many different foreign military forces, and the two Egyptians impressed me the most. That day I saw two EAF officers lingering in front of the J-10C, looking around and looking at it again and again. There was no commentator on the scene. Just when they saw the word CHINA on my badge, they called me over.One of them was very old and of a very high rank. After listening to my introduction, he was very satisfied with the aircraft and told me that when he was still a young man decades ago, he was an Egyptian pilot flying the J-6. He also encountered a serious flight accident. At that time, his J-6 stopped in the air with a single engine. The thrust difference on both sides caused the aircraft to enter a tailspin. No matter how hard he tried, he could not get out of it, and he had to eject and parachute.I was a little embarrassed when he heard him say that, and hurriedly explained that China's aviation equipment is now far more advanced than it was back then [sweat] and then asked me, "Is this aircraft still equipped with Russian engines?" I admitted that it was, but added that "the number of domestic engines installed is already a lot, and the reliability is guaranteed."Like the civilian market, many old Egyptian military personnel still have some negative impressions about the quality of Chinese products, and still have shadows and concerns. But at the same time, they still have high hopes for new options other than the United States and Russia. The veteran who flew the J-6 now has the opportunity to contact China's new fighter jets, and the visible progress still makes him feel very emotional.Accompanying him on the tour is a middle-aged pilot who has a basic grasp of the development of various advanced equipment at present. He can quickly understand any characteristics and further interpret them to his leader. He said that he used to fly F-16. Although the number of F-16s given to Egypt by the United States is large, the configuration of both new and old batches is very poor. In order to ensure that the Egyptian Air Force does not pose a threat to Israel, the United States has not approved the provision of AIM-120 to Egypt, and even AIM-7 is rare. Most of the Egyptian F-16s can only rely on AIM-9 to fight face to face in actual combat, and their ground weapons are also very limited. GBU-12 is a treasure, and Mk82 iron bombs are the main force. In this case, Egypt's choice to purchase a large number of MiG-29M/M2 is very reasonable. These aircraft that can fight R-77 and various precision-guided weapons are more useful than F-16 in the eyes of the Egyptian Air Force.I asked him, since you are an F-16 pilot, why don't you wear a flight suit like others? This guy smiled with a twisted expression: "A few years ago, I was selected as one of the first pilots to be converted to Su-35. When I came back from training in Russia, you know what happened next... and during this period, my F-16 qualifications were not retained, so now I am a Su-35 pilot without a plane." As soon as this came out, I immediately felt deep sympathy for him [sad face] He is definitely the most pitiful Egyptian pilot I have ever met.After scolding the Americans together, I told him that if there is really fate, then you will at least get the combination of AESA+SD10, which is enough for you to defend Egypt. Speaking of AESA, the old leader came over and said, "It looks like your radar is bigger than Rafale's." I immediately seized the opportunity and said, "Your insight is very sharp. The larger antenna diameter can accommodate more transceiver components and has better detection capabilities." The lone Su-35 pilot also found his familiar IRST in front of the windshield. I told him, "Although this looks similar, it is different from the Russian version. Our IRST is more sensitive and can see farther...".Watching the two Egyptians whispering to each other, it is obvious that the pilots' eyes are bright. They look at the J-10C with the eyes of a man looking at a sports car, and look at the leader with the eyes of a child begging his father to buy him a favorite toy. It can be said that his love is absolutely beyond words.Finally, the two took me to take a photo and shake hands in front of the J-10C, then walked straight to the end of the apron, and boarded the Egyptian Air Force A340 special plane that had been waiting for a long time with other important personnel, and roared away from the air show and flew back to Cairo.
واضح ان كلنا على ورقه واحده其中一个年纪很大的级别相当高，听完我的介绍对飞机很满意，而且告诉我：几十年前他还是小伙子的时候，就是飞J-6的埃及飞行员。他还遇到过严重的飞行事故，当时他的J-6单发空中停车，两侧的推力差异导致飞机进入尾旋，不论怎么努力都无法改出，最终只能弹射跳伞。
听他这么说我顿时有点尴尬，赶忙解释如今中国的航空装备已经远比当年先进
和民间市场一样，埃及军方的许多老人对于当年中国产品的质量还是有些负面印象，至今仍有阴影和顾虑。但同时他们仍然对美俄之外的新选择抱有厚望，飞过J-6的老将如今又有机会接触中国新战机，肉眼可见的进步还是让他很感慨的。
陪同他参观的是一名中年飞行员，对当前各种先进装备的发展还是基本掌握的，讲什么特点都能很快理解，并且给他的领导作进一步解读。他说自己之前是飞F-16的，美国给埃及的F-16虽然数量很多，但不论新老批次配置都非常差。为了确保埃及空军不对以色列构成威胁，美国至今也不批准向埃及提供AIM-120，连AIM-7都很少。绝大部分埃及F-16在实战中只能靠AIM-9去贴脸格斗，对地武器也非常有限，GBU-12都当宝，Mk82铁炸弹才是主力。这样的情况下，埃及大批采购MiG-29M/M2的选择就非常合理了，这些能打R-77和各种精确制导武器的飞机在埃及空军眼里可比F-16中用多了。
我问他既然你是F-16飞行员，为什么你不像其他人一样穿飞行服来呢？这老哥表情扭曲的笑了笑：“前几年我被选为首批改装Su-35的飞行员之一，等我从俄罗斯训练完回来，接下来发生了什么你也知道了……而在这期间我的F-16资质也没继续保留，所以现在我是没有飞机的Su-35飞行员”，此话一出让我对他立马深表同情
一起痛骂美国人之后，我给他说，如果真的有缘分，那你们将至少得到AESA+SD10的组合，足够你们保卫埃及了。讲到AESA，老头领导还过来插嘴“看起来你们的雷达比阵风的要大一些吧”，我立马抓住机会“您的洞察力非常敏锐，更大的天线直径可以容纳更多收发元件，具有更好的探测能力”。光杆Su-35飞行员还在风挡前面发现了他熟悉的IRST，我告诉他“虽然这个看着相似，但是和俄罗斯的版本已经不一样了，我们这种IRST更灵敏，看得更远……”。
看着这两个埃及人交头接耳，很明显能感受到飞行员眼睛都亮了，看J-10C是那种男人看跑车的眼神，看领导的眼神又像个哀求父亲给自己买心爱玩具的孩子，可以说喜爱之情绝对是溢于言表了。
最后两位拉着我在J-10C前面合影握手，然后径直走向停机坪尽头，和其他要员一起登上了等候多时的埃及空军A340专机，呼啸着离开了航展现场飞回开罗。
#Egypt Air Show# This time I met so many different foreign military forces, and the two Egyptians impressed me the most. That day I saw two EAF officers lingering in front of the J-10C, looking around and looking at it again and again. There was no commentator on the scene. Just when they saw the word CHINA on my badge, they called me over.One of them was very old and of a very high rank. After listening to my introduction, he was very satisfied with the aircraft and told me that when he was still a young man decades ago, he was an Egyptian pilot flying the J-6. He also encountered a serious flight accident. At that time, his J-6 stopped in the air with a single engine. The thrust difference on both sides caused the aircraft to enter a tailspin. No matter how hard he tried, he could not get out of it, and he had to eject and parachute.I was a little embarrassed when he heard him say that, and hurriedly explained that China's aviation equipment is now far more advanced than it was back then [sweat] and then asked me, "Is this aircraft still equipped with Russian engines?" I admitted that it was, but added that "the number of domestic engines installed is already a lot, and the reliability is guaranteed."Like the civilian market, many old Egyptian military personnel still have some negative impressions about the quality of Chinese products, and still have shadows and concerns. But at the same time, they still have high hopes for new options other than the United States and Russia. The veteran who flew the J-6 now has the opportunity to contact China's new fighter jets, and the visible progress still makes him feel very emotional.Accompanying him on the tour is a middle-aged pilot who has a basic grasp of the development of various advanced equipment at present. He can quickly understand any characteristics and further interpret them to his leader. He said that he used to fly F-16. Although the number of F-16s given to Egypt by the United States is large, the configuration of both new and old batches is very poor. In order to ensure that the Egyptian Air Force does not pose a threat to Israel, the United States has not approved the provision of AIM-120 to Egypt, and even AIM-7 is rare. Most of the Egyptian F-16s can only rely on AIM-9 to fight face to face in actual combat, and their ground weapons are also very limited. GBU-12 is a treasure, and Mk82 iron bombs are the main force. In this case, Egypt's choice to purchase a large number of MiG-29M/M2 is very reasonable. These aircraft that can fight R-77 and various precision-guided weapons are more useful than F-16 in the eyes of the Egyptian Air Force.I asked him, since you are an F-16 pilot, why don't you wear a flight suit like others? This guy smiled with a twisted expression: "A few years ago, I was selected as one of the first pilots to be converted to Su-35. When I came back from training in Russia, you know what happened next... and during this period, my F-16 qualifications were not retained, so now I am a Su-35 pilot without a plane." As soon as this came out, I immediately felt deep sympathy for him [sad face] He is definitely the most pitiful Egyptian pilot I have ever met.After scolding the Americans together, I told him that if there is really fate, then you will at least get the combination of AESA+SD10, which is enough for you to defend Egypt. Speaking of AESA, the old leader came over and said, "It looks like your radar is bigger than Rafale's." I immediately seized the opportunity and said, "Your insight is very sharp. The larger antenna diameter can accommodate more transceiver components and has better detection capabilities." The lone Su-35 pilot also found his familiar IRST in front of the windshield. I told him, "Although this looks similar, it is different from the Russian version. Our IRST is more sensitive and can see farther...".Watching the two Egyptians whispering to each other, it is obvious that the pilots' eyes are bright. They look at the J-10C with the eyes of a man looking at a sports car, and look at the leader with the eyes of a child begging his father to buy him a favorite toy. It can be said that his love is absolutely beyond words.Finally, the two took me to take a photo and shake hands in front of the J-10C, then walked straight to the end of the apron, and boarded the Egyptian Air Force A340 special plane that had been waiting for a long time with other important personnel, and roared away from the air show and flew back to Cairo.
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يعنى يتدرب عليها طيار اف 16 ولا طيار الميج ؟؟؟
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يعنى يتدرب عليها طيار اف 16 ولا طيار الميج ؟؟؟
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على حسب نوع الدرون هيتحدد الوقت ..و عشان كده fbv خدت شعبية كبيرة ... اساسا انت ممكن تدرب الاف عليها بس تعمل لعبة معتمدة على محاكى ليها .. و ارصد ليها مجموع جوايز كام مليون مع شوية دعايا هتلاقى كل سنة عندك اعداد كبيرة مدربة نفسهم عليها و نتايج البطولة هتوضح مستواهم بالظبط
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#埃及航展# 这次接触了那么多不同的外军，印象最深的是俩埃及人。那天我看到两个EAF军官在J-10C前面流连忘返，围着一直看了又看，现场又没有解说员，正好他们看到我的胸牌上写着CHINA就把我喊过去。واضح ان كلنا على ورقه واحده
其中一个年纪很大的级别相当高，听完我的介绍对飞机很满意，而且告诉我：几十年前他还是小伙子的时候，就是飞J-6的埃及飞行员。他还遇到过严重的飞行事故，当时他的J-6单发空中停车，两侧的推力差异导致飞机进入尾旋，不论怎么努力都无法改出，最终只能弹射跳伞。
听他这么说我顿时有点尴尬，赶忙解释如今中国的航空装备已经远比当年先进然后又问我“这架飞机上安装的还是俄罗斯发动机吗？”我承认是的，但补充道“安装国产发动机的数量也已经很多了，可靠性是有保障的”。
和民间市场一样，埃及军方的许多老人对于当年中国产品的质量还是有些负面印象，至今仍有阴影和顾虑。但同时他们仍然对美俄之外的新选择抱有厚望，飞过J-6的老将如今又有机会接触中国新战机，肉眼可见的进步还是让他很感慨的。
陪同他参观的是一名中年飞行员，对当前各种先进装备的发展还是基本掌握的，讲什么特点都能很快理解，并且给他的领导作进一步解读。他说自己之前是飞F-16的，美国给埃及的F-16虽然数量很多，但不论新老批次配置都非常差。为了确保埃及空军不对以色列构成威胁，美国至今也不批准向埃及提供AIM-120，连AIM-7都很少。绝大部分埃及F-16在实战中只能靠AIM-9去贴脸格斗，对地武器也非常有限，GBU-12都当宝，Mk82铁炸弹才是主力。这样的情况下，埃及大批采购MiG-29M/M2的选择就非常合理了，这些能打R-77和各种精确制导武器的飞机在埃及空军眼里可比F-16中用多了。
我问他既然你是F-16飞行员，为什么你不像其他人一样穿飞行服来呢？这老哥表情扭曲的笑了笑：“前几年我被选为首批改装Su-35的飞行员之一，等我从俄罗斯训练完回来，接下来发生了什么你也知道了……而在这期间我的F-16资质也没继续保留，所以现在我是没有飞机的Su-35飞行员”，此话一出让我对他立马深表同情绝对是我遇到的最可怜的埃及飞行员。
一起痛骂美国人之后，我给他说，如果真的有缘分，那你们将至少得到AESA+SD10的组合，足够你们保卫埃及了。讲到AESA，老头领导还过来插嘴“看起来你们的雷达比阵风的要大一些吧”，我立马抓住机会“您的洞察力非常敏锐，更大的天线直径可以容纳更多收发元件，具有更好的探测能力”。光杆Su-35飞行员还在风挡前面发现了他熟悉的IRST，我告诉他“虽然这个看着相似，但是和俄罗斯的版本已经不一样了，我们这种IRST更灵敏，看得更远……”。
看着这两个埃及人交头接耳，很明显能感受到飞行员眼睛都亮了，看J-10C是那种男人看跑车的眼神，看领导的眼神又像个哀求父亲给自己买心爱玩具的孩子，可以说喜爱之情绝对是溢于言表了。
最后两位拉着我在J-10C前面合影握手，然后径直走向停机坪尽头，和其他要员一起登上了等候多时的埃及空军A340专机，呼啸着离开了航展现场飞回开罗。
#Egypt Air Show# This time I met so many different foreign military forces, and the two Egyptians impressed me the most. That day I saw two EAF officers lingering in front of the J-10C, looking around and looking at it again and again. There was no commentator on the scene. Just when they saw the word CHINA on my badge, they called me over.One of them was very old and of a very high rank. After listening to my introduction, he was very satisfied with the aircraft and told me that when he was still a young man decades ago, he was an Egyptian pilot flying the J-6. He also encountered a serious flight accident. At that time, his J-6 stopped in the air with a single engine. The thrust difference on both sides caused the aircraft to enter a tailspin. No matter how hard he tried, he could not get out of it, and he had to eject and parachute.I was a little embarrassed when he heard him say that, and hurriedly explained that China's aviation equipment is now far more advanced than it was back then [sweat] and then asked me, "Is this aircraft still equipped with Russian engines?" I admitted that it was, but added that "the number of domestic engines installed is already a lot, and the reliability is guaranteed."Like the civilian market, many old Egyptian military personnel still have some negative impressions about the quality of Chinese products, and still have shadows and concerns. But at the same time, they still have high hopes for new options other than the United States and Russia. The veteran who flew the J-6 now has the opportunity to contact China's new fighter jets, and the visible progress still makes him feel very emotional.Accompanying him on the tour is a middle-aged pilot who has a basic grasp of the development of various advanced equipment at present. He can quickly understand any characteristics and further interpret them to his leader. He said that he used to fly F-16. Although the number of F-16s given to Egypt by the United States is large, the configuration of both new and old batches is very poor. In order to ensure that the Egyptian Air Force does not pose a threat to Israel, the United States has not approved the provision of AIM-120 to Egypt, and even AIM-7 is rare. Most of the Egyptian F-16s can only rely on AIM-9 to fight face to face in actual combat, and their ground weapons are also very limited. GBU-12 is a treasure, and Mk82 iron bombs are the main force. In this case, Egypt's choice to purchase a large number of MiG-29M/M2 is very reasonable. These aircraft that can fight R-77 and various precision-guided weapons are more useful than F-16 in the eyes of the Egyptian Air Force.I asked him, since you are an F-16 pilot, why don't you wear a flight suit like others? This guy smiled with a twisted expression: "A few years ago, I was selected as one of the first pilots to be converted to Su-35. When I came back from training in Russia, you know what happened next... and during this period, my F-16 qualifications were not retained, so now I am a Su-35 pilot without a plane." As soon as this came out, I immediately felt deep sympathy for him [sad face] He is definitely the most pitiful Egyptian pilot I have ever met.After scolding the Americans together, I told him that if there is really fate, then you will at least get the combination of AESA+SD10, which is enough for you to defend Egypt. Speaking of AESA, the old leader came over and said, "It looks like your radar is bigger than Rafale's." I immediately seized the opportunity and said, "Your insight is very sharp. The larger antenna diameter can accommodate more transceiver components and has better detection capabilities." The lone Su-35 pilot also found his familiar IRST in front of the windshield. I told him, "Although this looks similar, it is different from the Russian version. Our IRST is more sensitive and can see farther...".Watching the two Egyptians whispering to each other, it is obvious that the pilots' eyes are bright. They look at the J-10C with the eyes of a man looking at a sports car, and look at the leader with the eyes of a child begging his father to buy him a favorite toy. It can be said that his love is absolutely beyond words.Finally, the two took me to take a photo and shake hands in front of the J-10C, then walked straight to the end of the apron, and boarded the Egyptian Air Force A340 special plane that had been waiting for a long time with other important personnel, and roared away from the air show and flew back to Cairo.
الاخبار بدأت تتسرب فعليا من معرض العلمين
ان مصر وقعت على صفقة J-10C
ولا يعلم بعد ماهي التفاصيل
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#埃及航展# 这次接触了那么多不同的外军，印象最深的是俩埃及人。那天我看到两个EAF军官在J-10C前面流连忘返，围着一直看了又看，现场又没有解说员，正好他们看到我的胸牌上写着CHINA就把我喊过去。واضح ان كلنا على ورقه واحده
其中一个年纪很大的级别相当高，听完我的介绍对飞机很满意，而且告诉我：几十年前他还是小伙子的时候，就是飞J-6的埃及飞行员。他还遇到过严重的飞行事故，当时他的J-6单发空中停车，两侧的推力差异导致飞机进入尾旋，不论怎么努力都无法改出，最终只能弹射跳伞。
听他这么说我顿时有点尴尬，赶忙解释如今中国的航空装备已经远比当年先进然后又问我“这架飞机上安装的还是俄罗斯发动机吗？”我承认是的，但补充道“安装国产发动机的数量也已经很多了，可靠性是有保障的”。
和民间市场一样，埃及军方的许多老人对于当年中国产品的质量还是有些负面印象，至今仍有阴影和顾虑。但同时他们仍然对美俄之外的新选择抱有厚望，飞过J-6的老将如今又有机会接触中国新战机，肉眼可见的进步还是让他很感慨的。
陪同他参观的是一名中年飞行员，对当前各种先进装备的发展还是基本掌握的，讲什么特点都能很快理解，并且给他的领导作进一步解读。他说自己之前是飞F-16的，美国给埃及的F-16虽然数量很多，但不论新老批次配置都非常差。为了确保埃及空军不对以色列构成威胁，美国至今也不批准向埃及提供AIM-120，连AIM-7都很少。绝大部分埃及F-16在实战中只能靠AIM-9去贴脸格斗，对地武器也非常有限，GBU-12都当宝，Mk82铁炸弹才是主力。这样的情况下，埃及大批采购MiG-29M/M2的选择就非常合理了，这些能打R-77和各种精确制导武器的飞机在埃及空军眼里可比F-16中用多了。
我问他既然你是F-16飞行员，为什么你不像其他人一样穿飞行服来呢？这老哥表情扭曲的笑了笑：“前几年我被选为首批改装Su-35的飞行员之一，等我从俄罗斯训练完回来，接下来发生了什么你也知道了……而在这期间我的F-16资质也没继续保留，所以现在我是没有飞机的Su-35飞行员”，此话一出让我对他立马深表同情绝对是我遇到的最可怜的埃及飞行员。
一起痛骂美国人之后，我给他说，如果真的有缘分，那你们将至少得到AESA+SD10的组合，足够你们保卫埃及了。讲到AESA，老头领导还过来插嘴“看起来你们的雷达比阵风的要大一些吧”，我立马抓住机会“您的洞察力非常敏锐，更大的天线直径可以容纳更多收发元件，具有更好的探测能力”。光杆Su-35飞行员还在风挡前面发现了他熟悉的IRST，我告诉他“虽然这个看着相似，但是和俄罗斯的版本已经不一样了，我们这种IRST更灵敏，看得更远……”。
看着这两个埃及人交头接耳，很明显能感受到飞行员眼睛都亮了，看J-10C是那种男人看跑车的眼神，看领导的眼神又像个哀求父亲给自己买心爱玩具的孩子，可以说喜爱之情绝对是溢于言表了。
最后两位拉着我在J-10C前面合影握手，然后径直走向停机坪尽头，和其他要员一起登上了等候多时的埃及空军A340专机，呼啸着离开了航展现场飞回开罗。
#Egypt Air Show# This time I met so many different foreign military forces, and the two Egyptians impressed me the most. That day I saw two EAF officers lingering in front of the J-10C, looking around and looking at it again and again. There was no commentator on the scene. Just when they saw the word CHINA on my badge, they called me over.One of them was very old and of a very high rank. After listening to my introduction, he was very satisfied with the aircraft and told me that when he was still a young man decades ago, he was an Egyptian pilot flying the J-6. He also encountered a serious flight accident. At that time, his J-6 stopped in the air with a single engine. The thrust difference on both sides caused the aircraft to enter a tailspin. No matter how hard he tried, he could not get out of it, and he had to eject and parachute.I was a little embarrassed when he heard him say that, and hurriedly explained that China's aviation equipment is now far more advanced than it was back then [sweat] and then asked me, "Is this aircraft still equipped with Russian engines?" I admitted that it was, but added that "the number of domestic engines installed is already a lot, and the reliability is guaranteed."Like the civilian market, many old Egyptian military personnel still have some negative impressions about the quality of Chinese products, and still have shadows and concerns. But at the same time, they still have high hopes for new options other than the United States and Russia. The veteran who flew the J-6 now has the opportunity to contact China's new fighter jets, and the visible progress still makes him feel very emotional.Accompanying him on the tour is a middle-aged pilot who has a basic grasp of the development of various advanced equipment at present. He can quickly understand any characteristics and further interpret them to his leader. He said that he used to fly F-16. Although the number of F-16s given to Egypt by the United States is large, the configuration of both new and old batches is very poor. In order to ensure that the Egyptian Air Force does not pose a threat to Israel, the United States has not approved the provision of AIM-120 to Egypt, and even AIM-7 is rare. Most of the Egyptian F-16s can only rely on AIM-9 to fight face to face in actual combat, and their ground weapons are also very limited. GBU-12 is a treasure, and Mk82 iron bombs are the main force. In this case, Egypt's choice to purchase a large number of MiG-29M/M2 is very reasonable. These aircraft that can fight R-77 and various precision-guided weapons are more useful than F-16 in the eyes of the Egyptian Air Force.I asked him, since you are an F-16 pilot, why don't you wear a flight suit like others? This guy smiled with a twisted expression: "A few years ago, I was selected as one of the first pilots to be converted to Su-35. When I came back from training in Russia, you know what happened next... and during this period, my F-16 qualifications were not retained, so now I am a Su-35 pilot without a plane." As soon as this came out, I immediately felt deep sympathy for him [sad face] He is definitely the most pitiful Egyptian pilot I have ever met.After scolding the Americans together, I told him that if there is really fate, then you will at least get the combination of AESA+SD10, which is enough for you to defend Egypt. Speaking of AESA, the old leader came over and said, "It looks like your radar is bigger than Rafale's." I immediately seized the opportunity and said, "Your insight is very sharp. The larger antenna diameter can accommodate more transceiver components and has better detection capabilities." The lone Su-35 pilot also found his familiar IRST in front of the windshield. I told him, "Although this looks similar, it is different from the Russian version. Our IRST is more sensitive and can see farther...".Watching the two Egyptians whispering to each other, it is obvious that the pilots' eyes are bright. They look at the J-10C with the eyes of a man looking at a sports car, and look at the leader with the eyes of a child begging his father to buy him a favorite toy. It can be said that his love is absolutely beyond words.Finally, the two took me to take a photo and shake hands in front of the J-10C, then walked straight to the end of the apron, and boarded the Egyptian Air Force A340 special plane that had been waiting for a long time with other important personnel, and roared away from the air show and flew back to Cairo.
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مش عارف ليه بقيت فاقد الأمل في أى شىء كويس يخص التسليح
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ف ٧٣ انت مقاتلاتك كانت تحت اليهود ... بس انت كنت عارف امكانيات مقاتلاتك و امكانيات مقاتلات عدوك و دربت الطياريين لتحقيق الاستفادة القصوى من سلاحك و فى نفس الوقت متهورتش بسلاح الجو بتاعك و كنت دايما بتحاول تستخدمه فى سناريوهات تغطى على عيوبه ..و ده سبب ان الحرب خلصت و سلاح الجو بكامل عافيته على الرغم من تفوق اسرائيل ..
الجى ١٠ احسن بمراحل من الاف ١٦ المصرية اللى تسليحها واقف عند التمنينات ..و هتديلك فرصة احسن و قدرات اعلى بكتيير و اسلحة ستاند اوف تقدر تستخدمها من العمق المصرى لاستهداف العمق الاسرائيلى ..
و طبعا اشتراطات اقل فى الاستخدام هتسملحكلك انك تبعتها لاى جبهة اخرى ان احتجت ..و هى بوضعها كده اكتر من كافية لتحقيق التفوق مريح على اى جبهه غير اسرائيل ..
و من نافلة القول ان الجى ١٠ هتبقى مقدمة لل شبحيات الصينية اللى الصين مش هتديهالك الا لو وثقت انك مش هترجع فى كلامك معاهم فى نصف الطريق
لا يوجد امامك خيارات افضل امريكا مستحيل تعطيك ما يجعلك متفوق على اسرائيل فى التسليح وايضا كل الدول الغربيه لعبه فى يد امريكا واسرائيل . الطائره ليست سيئة والصين تخطو خطوات عملاقة فى صناعة الاسلحه من مصلحتنا ان نقوى العلاقات والاشتراك معها فى مشاريع تسليح
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إختيار هذه المقاتلة بالذات يعني أن مصر قاربت علي إخراج أعداد من آلاف 16 من الخدمة مع رفض أمريكا تطويرها لأن الj-10 نسخة صينية منها هنا المشكلة مش في مدي تطور الطائرة فقط فالمشكلة الأكبر هي هل هنقدر نكمل في الصفقة والا لا في ظل السعار الأمريكي عالميا وخصوصا علي مصر بالتحديد
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بس الفرق في تأثير الدفاع الجوى ضد الأهداف الجوية بين وقتها واليوم مهول
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متزعلش مني حضرتك بس ازمة الثقة مش انا سببها او العضو او انت و اه ليها اسقاطات امنية و عسكرية و اقتصادية و الموضوع مش من امبارح دي مشكلة ليها عقود في كل المجالات ، كلامك صحيح جدا مفيش عاقل حيقلل و يعارض لمجرد الاعتراض لان هوا دا الصح و اللي بنتمناه ، مين مش عايز الاصح لبلده في النهاية ملناش غير بعض و في حين ان التعميم السلبي مش صحي لان ساعات كتير السيئة بتغطي على الحسنة الاهم و الكل بيغلط بس الحل ليها مش طلب الثقه انما اكتسابها
الحياة لا تعترف لا بنوايا و لا بافعال و لا بتخطيط كمان فقط بالنتائج .. قدم نتائج ايجابية في اي حاجة بشكل مستدام و الثقة حتجيلك لحد عندك لوحدها من غير ما تطلبها حتى ، تسلسل الاوامر و رد الفعل بين الافرع بالشكل دا زي ما بتقول اننا نكون فعلا combat aware من اصغر جندي لاكبر معدة in real time اكتر شئ حيوي في معارك اليوم و شئ يفرحنا كلنا
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بعض الناس تحلم احلاااام اليقظة زي ايمن و تريد ان ترغم الناس ان احلامها و خيالاتها و اوهااامها شيئ مؤكد !!؟ وترررركية بعد
لايمكن تقول له ان غدا لناظره لقريب لنثبت له انه متخيل فارغ من منطق
لانه غدا عنده حلم و دعاية و تخيلات و اوهام جديدة
الحل الوحيد تقول الله يشفيك
و تنبه الناس ان هذا النوع من الناس و العقليات المتوهمة الى هزم مصر سابقا ( نفس عقاية بكرة حنرمي اسرائيل في البحر ) وتصفيييق
والنعاية اسرع هزينة في التاريخ وجعلوا من مصر مصخرة و اضحوكة امام العالم
اولا انا لا اقلل من شخصك والا من اى شخص وانا هاوى مثلك لكن فى اعتبارات منطقيه .
بالنسبه لتطور الجيش حقيقى مصر حاليا مش فى حالة حرب وفعلا حالة الحرب بتبين كفاءة الجيوش ده اولا فمش عارف انت حكمت على تطور الجيش ازاى
اللى حضرتك وانا بنشوفه فى التلفاز غالبا اصطفاف او صور مرئية لاجراءات التفتيش
او جزء من المناوره بعد مراجعة الشئون المعنويه ومش كل المناورة منقوله والحكم على الكفاءة بالتنفيذ ليه معايير بتتقاس بيها واكيد الحرب الحقيقيه مختلفه بس بردوا ماقدرش احكم على ان الكفاءه قليله بالعكس حسب التصريحات واعمال الاختراق والتمهيد النيرانى ومرمى وميدان التصويب حسب مابيعلن دقة الاصابه وتوقيتات تنفيذ الاعمال جيده فمش عارف حكمت ازاى ان الكفاءه قليله شوفت ايه ماشفنهوش لو عندك فيديوهات بتغلب رايك ابعته واشرحلنا نستفيد مع حضرتك
سيناء والحرب على الارهاب كان ليها معوقات تتعلق بطبيعة التعامل مع حروب غير نظاميه وتتعلق بطبيعة اتفاقية كامب ديفيد حتى ادخال القوات واستعمال المطار فى سيناء لم يكن بسهوله فى السنوات الاولى وده اثر كتير على الاستطلاع والدعم النيرانى وسرعة دعم للقوات نعم هناك اخطاء فى الارتكازات وخلافه والتامين ماشى لكن موضوع الحروب الغير متماثله امر مختلف فى الحسبان عكس السنوات الاخيره قبل 2019 الاوضاع بقت افضل كتير وقدرنا نحيد خطر الارهاب ونقضى على معظمه وخطورته
بالنسبه للجزء التانى وكله تمام والعلاقات التانيه المبنيه على النفاق الادارى فى الدوله الامور تختلف بعض الشئ عن الحكومه منها فى المؤسسه العسكريه لان هناك حوكمة اداء اكبر من اى مؤسسه تانيه وليست مثاليه لكن طبيعة المؤسسة والية عملها فى الفترات الاخيره قائمة على التدريب والتقييم والتقويم وكم برامج التدريب فى الفترة الاخيره كما نسمع كبير جدا وده اكيد بيبين السلبيات وبيعالجها
عامة مشاركتى ليس لاحجام رايك او التسخيف منه ابدا لا اقصد انما اصلا طبيعة المشاركة انها تتمثل فى الارتباك فى وضع سلاح المسيرات وتبعيته والبناء على انه هيؤدى لسوء اداء افتراض من وجهة نظرى يفتقد للوجاهة بس ده كل شئ
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ابدا مش زعلان منك بس انا اتكلمت فى جزئيه محدده ولم اتطرق الى اشياء اخرى قد اكون متفق معك فيها انا لم اخلط كل الامور مع بعضها . تحدثت فى امر محدد يتعلق بتصور الارتباك التنظيمى من وجهة نظركم فيما يتعلق بالدرونات واللى اتبنى عليها بعض الاراء بحكم مسبق بسوء الاداء يعنى شوفت تصور افتراضى اتبنى عليه حكم افتراضى من وجهة نظرى غير صحيح من حيث الامر ده تحديدا اما فيما يتعلق بالدوله وشئونها والامراض الباطنه فيها ده موضوع تانى خالص انا لا اناقشه الان
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