مقال: السعودية يجب ان لا تحصل على F-35

اذا حصلت السعودية على مقاتلة الاف ٣٥ بعدد ٣٦ مقاتلة وجاهزيتها الكاملة و مقالة التايفون ترانش ٣ بعدد ٤٨ عندها سوف تكون قوض ضاربة في الشرق الاوسط والعالم
 
الحياة تخيرك للأفضل
(جواب ليس علمي ولكن فيه معنى قوي)

انت داخل علي صناعة حربية وتلزم المليارات (وصلت لدرجة تخصيص حوالي 40‎%‎ من عائدات اكتتاب أرامكو)،، وتريد ان تصرف مليارات علي سلاح يعتبر (رفاهية) مقارنة بمستوي العدائيات أمامك!!!

أظن ان قيادتكم تفكر بهذا الشكل !!!!
 
انت داخل علي صناعة حربية وتلزم المليارات (وصلت لدرجة تخصيص حوالي 40‎%‎ من عائدات اكتتاب أرامكو)،، وتريد ان تصرف مليارات علي سلاح يعتبر (رفاهية) مقارنة بمستوي العدائيات أمامك!!!

أظن ان قيادتكم تفكر بهذا الشكل !!!!
الصناعة الحربية ستقلل من الأنفاق ولن تزيده

والسلاح لم ولن يكون رفاهية بل اداة ردع لحماية اراضيك مهما كان ( السعر )
نجد دول تسرح وتمرح في اراضي دول اخرى بأستخدام الأف35 لأستهداف شوية مرتزقة
 
رسالة وزير الدفاع الأمريكي للكونجرس عام ١٩٧٨

Dear Mr. Chairman,



During recent conversations with you and other members of your committee, a number of questions have been raised regarding the characteristics of the F-15 aircraft we propose to sell to Saudi Arabia and reassurances as to the purpose for which Saudi Arabia will use the aircraft. I would like to respond to these questions and attempt to resolve any uncertainties that members may have felt regarding the proposed sale.

I. The F-15 aircraft

The F-15 we plan to sell to Saudi Arabia will have the same configurations as the interceptor model approved for the United States air force. During the developmental phase of the F-15, initial plans called for giving the aircraft a ground attack capability. However, the availability of other aircraft with superior strike capabilities led the air force to alter its plans and to limit the role of the F-15 to that of an air superiority fighter. Consequently, the development of new ground attack systems for the F-15 was discontinued in 1975.

Saudi Arabia chose the F-15 because of its extended patrol capability and superior air defense characteristics (including an advanced, all-weather air-to-air radar system). The F-15 best meets Saudi Arabian requirements for the air defense of a vast territory. In choosing the F-15, Saudi Arabia rejected aircraft with powerful ground attack capabilities such as the F-16.

As Saudi Arabia has selected the F-15 to defend its national territory, it would be folly, as the Chairman Designate of the JCS, General David Jones, USAF, observed in testimony, to use the F-15 offensively against neighboring countries. This is particularly so vis-a-vis Israel, whose air strength is, and will be, so much greater. Not only would the F-15 be relatively ineffective in an offensive mode, and the risk of loss of the aircraft high, but its use away from Saudi Arabia would leave vital oil facilities, urban centers and military installations without necessary air defense cover. From the standpoint of military planning, it would make no sense whatsoever for Saudi Arabia to acquire an aircraft with the characteristics of the F-15 with an idea of using it as a ground attack aircraft. I am confident the Saudis have no such intention. Like the USAF model, the F-15 for Saudi Arabia will be equipped with air defense armament, namely four AIM-9 Sidewinder air-to-air missiles, four Aim-7 Sparrow air-to-air missiles and a 20 mm gun.

The aircraft can carry three external fuel tanks, but the plane requested by Saudi Arabia will not be equipped with special features that could give it additional range. Specifically, the planes will not have conformal fuel tanks ("fast packs"), i.e. auxiliary fuel tanks that conform to the body of the plane, and Saudi Arabian KC-130 tankers do not have equipment for air refueling of the F-15.

Saudi Arabia has not requested that the plane be outfitted with multiple ejection racks (MER 200) which would allow the plane to carry a substantial bomb load.

The U.S. will not furnish such MER'S, and testing and certification of a MER system for the F-15 would not be feasible by another country without U.S. authorization. While aircraft could conceivably carry three standard MK 84 bombs, they would each replace an external fuel tank; this would greatly shorten the aircraft's range and increase its vulnerability. Moreover, in contrast to the F-16, the F-15 does not have a radar system designed for bombing.

Saudi Arabia has not requested nor do we intend to sell any other systems or armaments that would increase the range or enhance the ground attack capability of the F-15.

Pursuant to our national security disclosure policy, certain highly sensitive subcomponents of the U.S. air force version of the F-15 (E.G. cryptologic equipment and some special electronic capabilities) will not be sold to Saudi Arabia.

In sum, it is clear that the F-15 will help Saudi Arabia deter and defend against those nations that are hostile to its role as a leading moderate Arab state.

II. Assurances

The Government of Saudi Arabia has assured us that it has no aggressive intentions against any state, that it will use the F-15 aircraft only in furtherance of its legitimate self-defense, and that it will not employ the aircraft offensively. The Saudi Arabian Government has similarly assured us that it will not transfer the F-15 aircraft to any third country or permit the nationals of such country to train on the F-15 aircraft, serve as pilots, or otherwise to have access to the aircraft without the authorization of the United States.

We have specifically discussed these restrictions on use and prohibitions on transfer with the Government of Saudi Arabia. They have assured us that they intend scrupulously to comply with these prohibitions and restrictions. The record of Saudi Arabia in this respect is excellent. However, should the assurances be violated, the United States can take appropriate action, including suspension of services and of delivery of spare parts and other military equipment. Without such services the usability of the F-15 would degrade rapidly.

It is also important to note that the sales agreement reserves to the United States the right to suspend or cancel deliveries at any time when the national interest of the United States so requires. Further, under section 21 (C) of the arms export control act, no U.S. person employed under foreign military sales contracts in Saudi Arabia or any other country would be permitted to perform services in support of combat operations.

Questions have been raised concerning the possible basing of the F-15 aircraft at Tabuk air base. I would like to repeat to you the assurance given to me and other United States officials by the Saudi Arabian Government that Saudi Arabia will base the F-15 aircraft, not at Tabuk, but at Dhahran, Taif and possibly at Riyadh or Khamis Mushait. Basing the F-15 at the vulnerable Tabuk base could place in needless jeopardy these vital aircraft which will form the heart of the Saudi Arabian air defense system. In addition, Tabuk is not equipped to serve as an operating base for the F-15's, and could not be so equipped without extensive base for the F-15's, and could not be so equipped without extensive U.S. assistance which would not be provided. These practical considerations, of which Saudi Arabia is well aware, strengthen the assurances that the F-15's will not be based at Tabuk.

The question has also been raised whether the Government of Saudi Arabia intends to acquire additional combat aircraft from other countries. The Saudi Arabian Government has assured us that it does not intend to add to its inventory any combat aircraft from other countries while it is preparing for and receiving the sixty F-15's. The shortage of trained personnel in Saudi Arabia would severely constrain Saudi Arabia's ability to utilize any additional new aircraft beyond the F-15 during this period.

With respect to the security of the aircraft, the Government of Saudi Arabia has expressed its determination to provide carefully for the physical protection of the aircraft, manuals and other material related to it. Prior to the delivery of the aircraft, we will work with the Government of Saudi Arabia to ensure that adequate safeguards are in place to prevent uauthorized persons from obtaining access to the aircraft or information about it.

The proposal with respect to Saudi Arabia, like all such proposals, stands on its own merits, and I hope the foregoing information will be helpful to you and that you and the members of your committee will join in support of the administration's proposals to sell aircraft to Israel, Egypt and Saudi Arabia.

Sincerely,

(Signed) Harold Brown
Hercules @Hercules
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لا و ملونها بالاحمر
 
انت داخل علي صناعة حربية وتلزم المليارات (وصلت لدرجة تخصيص حوالي 40‎%‎ من عائدات اكتتاب أرامكو)،، وتريد ان تصرف مليارات علي سلاح يعتبر (رفاهية) مقارنة بمستوي العدائيات أمامك!!!

أظن ان قيادتكم تفكر بهذا الشكل !!!!


لا حول ولا قوة الا بالله!​
 
الخليجيون وخصوصا السعودية والإمارات وربما قطر هم فقط العرب المرشحون لهذه الطائرة
الباقيين يجيبوا من الآخر ويشوفو بديل آخر إذا لقو
اما عن المقال فلن يغير من الواقع شئ
ولن تستطيع أمريكا رفض طلب المملكة ربما فقط تؤجله
 
لاني عارف ما حد يقرأ
ممكن تشرح لي غايتك من نشر هلرسالة عديمة القيمة الي مالها علاقة بالموضوع؟ ?
 
الصناعة الحربية ستقلل من الأنفاق ولن تزيده
والسلاح لم ولن يكون رفاهية بل اداة ردع لحماية اراضيك مهما كان ( السعر )
نجد دول تسرح وتمرح في اراضي دول اخرى بأستخدام لأف35 لأستهداف شوية مرتزقة

غير صحيح!!

الصناعة تزيد الإنفاق وخاصة في البداية (إنشاء البني التحتية+ البحوث والدراسات+ الاستحواذ علي شركات أو منتجات)!!

لديكم سلاح جو هو الاقوي في المنطقة ويشكل ردع لأي مغامر!!


الايتنيغ رفاهية حاليا لأن هناك قطاعات اخري اولي وعلي رأسها (البحرية)!!!
 
ممكن تشرح لي غايتك من نشر هلرسالة عديمة القيمة الي مالها علاقة بالموضوع؟ ?

بكل تأكيد العضو المحترم. كان هناك تعليقات تم حذفها عن رفض السعودية عدم وضع آلاف ١٥ بقاعدة تبوك. طبعا انا اتكلم عند شراؤها وليس اليوم.
 
Questions have been raised concerning the possible basing of the F-15 aircraft at Tabuk air base. I would like to repeat to you the assurance given to me and other United States officials by the Saudi Arabian Government that Saudi Arabia will base the F-15 aircraft, not at Tabuk, but at Dhahran, Taif and possibly at Riyadh or Khamis Mushait.
السرب الثاني بالقوات الجوية الملكية السعودية مركزه تبوك.
مقاتلات السرب الثاني هي F-15C/D
 
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