لماذا لا تحب الهند صواريخها الروسية الصنع؟

كم اكره المقالات الموجهة المخصصة للعلب على عقول من لا يكلفون انفسهم عناء البحث والتاكد


اول شيئ الهند حتى لو تتسلح بالسلاح الامريكي فهي ستجعله كارثة والدليل حجم الحوادث والخسائر اليومية للعتاد والافراد

ثاني شيئ كيف نحكم على الR-77 بالفشل وهو كان مركب على ميغ 21 دخلت الخدمة سلاح اجلو الهندي سنة 63 حتى لو اعيد تحديثها الف مرة فلن تكون في مستوى الاف 16 الباكستانية للعلم الميغ21 الهندية في الحرب الهندية الباكستانية الثالثة حققت انتصارات عديدة على سلاح الجو الباكستاني من خلال اسقاطها طائرات F-104 التي هي من جيل الميغ21 السوفياتية

ثالثا تم تزويد الميغ 21 برادار كوبيو المركب على الميغ 29 وفي محجم مصغر بمدى بحث 57 كلم وبزاوية بحث ناقص زائد 40 درجة فهل هناك وجه مقارنة بين الطائرتين في القتال
الصورة في الاسفل تضهر ان الميغ الهندية لم تطلق اي صاروخ ولم يحدث قتال جوي اصلا بين الطائرتين بل تم الاستهداف من خارج مدى رادار الميغ 21 فكيف له ان يطلق الR77 وهو لم يكن يرصد شيئ

مشاهدة المرفق 182892


كلا الصاروخين من الR77وجدا على بدن الطائرة بموقع الحطام
وللعلم النسخ R-77M1 هو بمدى 175 كلم اما النسخة

المج-٢١ استخدمت ر-٧٣ لانها كانت قريبة من الف١٦
 

الهند تقول إن صواريخ روسيا لا تعمل (وتريد شراء الأسلحة الإسرائيلية بدلاً من ذلك)



India Says Russia's Missiles Don't Work (And Wants to Buy Israeli Ones Instead)


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India is now looking to Israel, from whom it has purchased numerous weapons, such as the Heron drone and , a radar-guided, beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile with a range of 50 kilometers (31 miles).
After losing one of its fighters to Pakistani jets armed with American-made missiles, India is not happy with its Russian-made missiles.
In fact, it wants to replace its Russian air-to-air missiles with Israeli weapons, according to Indian news site NDTV.
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“In two years from now, the Indian Air Force's frontline Sukhoi-30 fighters may be re-armed with Israeli Derby air-to-air missiles after the jet's Russian-made R-77 missiles were found wanting in air combat operations over the Line of Control on February 27 this year,” .

During air battles along the Kashmir border on February 26 and 27, an Indian Air Force (IAF) MiG-21 was shot down, apparently by a U.S.-made AIM-120 AMRAAM (Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missile) fired by one of Pakistan Air Force’s (PAF) American-built F-16 fighters. India claims to have downed a Pakistani fighter – which Pakistan denies – but India was still embarrassed by the capture of its MiG-21 pilot, who was shown on Pakistani television and later returned.



What troubles the Indian Air Force was that Pakistan was able to destroy an Indian jet from long range. “Among the Indian Air Force's fighters which were targeted were two Sukhoi-30s which managed to evade the AMRAAMs which were fired at close to their maximum range of 100 kilometers [62 miles],” according to NDTV. “Fully defensive and desperate to escape the incoming AMRAAMs, the IAF Sukhoi-30s escaped being shot down but were unable to retaliate the F-16s because they were out of position and their own missiles, the Russian R-77s, did not have the range to realistically engage the Pakistani fighters. IAF sources told NDTV that the Russian missiles do not match its advertised range and cannot engage targets which are more than 80 kilometers [50 miles] away.”

The early-model AIM-120A/B has a range of up to 75 kilometers (46 miles). But in 2010, Pakistan received a batch of the AIM-120C-5, with a range of 100 kilometers (62 miles). The most advanced AIM-120D has an estimated range of up to 160 kilometers (100 miles).



“The PAF surprised the IAF by launching air-to-air missiles from inside Pakistan-occupied Kashmir,” said Sameer Joshi, a former Indian Air Force fighter pilot. “The AMRAAM effectively outranged the IAF air-to-air missiles which did not get a command to launch.”

India is now looking to Israel, from whom it has purchased numerous weapons, such as the Heron drone and , a radar-guided, beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile with a range of 50 kilometers (31 miles). To counter AMRAAM-armed Pakistani F-16s, the IAF is looking at the improved I-Derby, which features a more radar seeker and – most importantly – a 100-kilometer (62 mile) range.



But that raises another problem: how to integrate an Israeli missile into a Russian airframe (and an ironic problem, given how much Russian-built planes have been destroyed by Israeli missiles). “Integrating the missile into the Russian fighter will be a challenge and, according to sources, will require Israeli expertise, particularly in developing a data-link between the Sukhoi-30 and the missile, once it is fired,” according to NDTV. “A fighter jet communicates with the missile through the data link and passes on updated vectors (location) of the fighter which has been targeted.”

Strangely, while disparaging Russian missiles and buying Israeli ones, the Indian Air Force is reportedly ordering yet . Moscow is offering medium- and long-range versions of the underperforming R-77.



Michael Peck is a contributing writer for the National Interest. He can be found on and .

: Wikimedia



 

الهند تقول إن صواريخ روسيا لا تعمل (وتريد شراء الأسلحة الإسرائيلية بدلاً من ذلك)



India Says Russia's Missiles Don't Work (And Wants to Buy Israeli Ones Instead)


Ouch.


by

India is now looking to Israel, from whom it has purchased numerous weapons, such as the Heron drone and , a radar-guided, beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile with a range of 50 kilometers (31 miles).
After losing one of its fighters to Pakistani jets armed with American-made missiles, India is not happy with its Russian-made missiles.
In fact, it wants to replace its Russian air-to-air missiles with Israeli weapons, according to Indian news site NDTV.
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10

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Do You Know What Happened Today In History?

July 16, 2019 Topic: Region: Blog Brand: Tags:



“In two years from now, the Indian Air Force's frontline Sukhoi-30 fighters may be re-armed with Israeli Derby air-to-air missiles after the jet's Russian-made R-77 missiles were found wanting in air combat operations over the Line of Control on February 27 this year,” .

During air battles along the Kashmir border on February 26 and 27, an Indian Air Force (IAF) MiG-21 was shot down, apparently by a U.S.-made AIM-120 AMRAAM (Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missile) fired by one of Pakistan Air Force’s (PAF) American-built F-16 fighters. India claims to have downed a Pakistani fighter – which Pakistan denies – but India was still embarrassed by the capture of its MiG-21 pilot, who was shown on Pakistani television and later returned.



What troubles the Indian Air Force was that Pakistan was able to destroy an Indian jet from long range. “Among the Indian Air Force's fighters which were targeted were two Sukhoi-30s which managed to evade the AMRAAMs which were fired at close to their maximum range of 100 kilometers [62 miles],” according to NDTV. “Fully defensive and desperate to escape the incoming AMRAAMs, the IAF Sukhoi-30s escaped being shot down but were unable to retaliate the F-16s because they were out of position and their own missiles, the Russian R-77s, did not have the range to realistically engage the Pakistani fighters. IAF sources told NDTV that the Russian missiles do not match its advertised range and cannot engage targets which are more than 80 kilometers [50 miles] away.”

The early-model AIM-120A/B has a range of up to 75 kilometers (46 miles). But in 2010, Pakistan received a batch of the AIM-120C-5, with a range of 100 kilometers (62 miles). The most advanced AIM-120D has an estimated range of up to 160 kilometers (100 miles).



“The PAF surprised the IAF by launching air-to-air missiles from inside Pakistan-occupied Kashmir,” said Sameer Joshi, a former Indian Air Force fighter pilot. “The AMRAAM effectively outranged the IAF air-to-air missiles which did not get a command to launch.”

India is now looking to Israel, from whom it has purchased numerous weapons, such as the Heron drone and , a radar-guided, beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile with a range of 50 kilometers (31 miles). To counter AMRAAM-armed Pakistani F-16s, the IAF is looking at the improved I-Derby, which features a more radar seeker and – most importantly – a 100-kilometer (62 mile) range.



But that raises another problem: how to integrate an Israeli missile into a Russian airframe (and an ironic problem, given how much Russian-built planes have been destroyed by Israeli missiles). “Integrating the missile into the Russian fighter will be a challenge and, according to sources, will require Israeli expertise, particularly in developing a data-link between the Sukhoi-30 and the missile, once it is fired,” according to NDTV. “A fighter jet communicates with the missile through the data link and passes on updated vectors (location) of the fighter which has been targeted.”

Strangely, while disparaging Russian missiles and buying Israeli ones, the Indian Air Force is reportedly ordering yet . Moscow is offering medium- and long-range versions of the underperforming R-77.



Michael Peck is a contributing writer for the National Interest. He can be found on and .

: Wikimedia




كلام غير صحيح ..الهند طلبت مزيد من صواريخ الروسية خاصة ر-٧٣ وطلبت مزيد من الفلانكرز والمج ....حتى ظهر قبل ايام صور ميراج-٢٠٠٠ هندية تحمل ر-٧٣ روسي وهذا دليل على ثقة الهنود بالصاروخ وبصحة اسقاطه للف-١٦
 
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